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To: Sabramerican
Israel is giving something substantial getting nothing in return.

But it is giving itself something in return: A defined border. The Arabs and EUroweenies may shriek, but it creates a de facto Palestinian state, in which the Palestinians will be forced by circumstance to act as and take the responsibilities of a nation, instead of hiding behind self-created refuge status.

I can't think of anyone better suited to draw the borders, in order to keep Israel secure, than Ariel Sharon.

33 posted on 06/19/2005 11:08:04 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
But it is giving itself something in return: A defined border....I can't think of anyone better suited to draw the borders, in order to keep Israel secure, than Ariel Sharon.

I agree completely. Whether Israel defines and sticks by her borders will be up to future administrations, as will the willingness of the US and other nations to recognize them. But hopefully they'll be defined. Liberally, just in case the palestinians decide to "negotioate" in 20 or 60 years.

34 posted on 06/19/2005 11:12:14 AM PDT by SJackson (Israel should know if you push people too hard they will explode in your faces, Abed. palestinian)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

Absolute nonsense.

You mean two "Palestinian" states (in addition to Jordan). And Israel must then accommodate a corridor between the two on either side. And jobs- Israel will still be expected to employ them.

And the Arabs will continue in their demands, Jerusalem, etc.

Is the Lebanese border now defined. Do any Arabs accept that border?

Every now and then you read a story of some deranged individual taking a knife to themselves amputating this and that for some purpose only they understand. That's what Israel is now doing to itself- with her "friends" cheering them on.


36 posted on 06/19/2005 11:16:32 AM PDT by Sabramerican
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