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US minister performs daughter's lesbian wedding, suspended
jamaicaobserver ^ | 19 June 2005

Posted on 06/19/2005 5:42:48 AM PDT by phoenix_004

Leaders of the Reformed Church in America suspended a New Jersey minister, ruling that he violated the denomination's teachings by officiating at his lesbian daughter's wedding.

A majority of delegates voted Friday night to suspend the Rev Norman Kansfield from the ministry until he changes his views to fall in line with church doctrine. They also stripped him of his standing as a professor of theology in the RCA.

Kansfield, 65, who has served in the church for 40 years, said the decision was "going to be very hard to deal with - my life has been the ministry". "The church of Jesus Christ needs to be as inclusive as the arms of our Lord himself," he added.

He had performed his daughter's wedding ceremony last June in Massachusetts, shortly after it became the first state to allow same-sex marriages. Kansfield was dismissed in January from his presidency of one of the church's two seminaries.

The case against Kansfield, filed by dozens of church leaders, alleged that he acted intentionally against Bible teachings and the church constitution when he officiated at the wedding of his 29-year-old daughter Ann and her girlfriend. The women met while studying to be ministers at Kansfield's seminary.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: christianreformed; defrocked; dutchreformed; homosexualagenda; lesbian; normankansfield; preacher; protestant; reformedchurch; samesexmarriage; wedding

1 posted on 06/19/2005 5:42:48 AM PDT by phoenix_004
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To: phoenix_004
"The church of Jesus Christ needs to be as inclusive as the arms of our Lord himself," he added.

Why can't these people understand the difference between inclusiveness and permissiveness, between immorality and repentance?

It makes me crazy.

2 posted on 06/19/2005 5:48:47 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: phoenix_004

There are a lot of others that this should happen to.


3 posted on 06/19/2005 5:48:54 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: phoenix_004
Kansfield, 65, who has served in the church for 40 years, said the decision was "going to be very hard to deal with - my life has been the ministry". "The church of Jesus Christ needs to be as inclusive as the arms of our Lord himself," he added.

1. Your life should not have been "the ministry" - it should have been worthless, but for Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

2. The arms of the Lord are not open to the unrepentent and rebellious sinner. Your daughter isn't running to His arms, she is running away from Him.

4 posted on 06/19/2005 5:53:43 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: phoenix_004

People change, the Gospel of Jesus Christ remains as true today as when it was first written.


5 posted on 06/19/2005 5:59:03 AM PDT by TGOGary (I would blow my brains out before ever wearing a blue beret.)
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when any minister of the Christian faith rejects the teaching of Scripture and takes it upon himself to call
evil good and good evil he ceases to be a minister of God
and become a minister of satan and should so be considered until/unless he repents. Christ was inclusive--but Nowhere in the Holy Scripture did Christ EVER defy Scripture and declare good what is called "abomination"


6 posted on 06/19/2005 6:19:32 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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""The church of Jesus Christ needs to be as inclusive as the arms of our Lord himself," he added."

Yes, but Christ said "Go and SIN NO MORE."

He didn't say "It's ok. Do what you want."


7 posted on 06/19/2005 6:42:38 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: phoenix_004
Kansfield, 65, who has served in the church for 40 years, said the decision was "going to be very hard to deal with - my life has been the ministry".

40 years and this still doesn't get it? Wow

8 posted on 06/19/2005 6:42:58 AM PDT by frankiep
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They also don't know the difference between tolerance and acceptance, and don't have the capacity to see the long-term results of such actions.

His choice should've been to try to SAVE her instead of marrying her to some other gal. Duh.


9 posted on 06/19/2005 6:46:36 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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Norm has a website.

10 posted on 06/19/2005 6:52:25 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Harsh not my mellow)
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To: TheGeezer
Why can't these people understand the difference between inclusiveness and permissiveness, between immorality and repentance?

Good question. I was always under the impression that Christianity's interest in sinners was primarily in reforming them, not pandering to their sins.

12 posted on 06/19/2005 8:01:50 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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2. The arms of the Lord are not open to the unrepentent and rebellious sinner. Your daughter isn't running to His arms, she is running away from Him.

It would appear that he is running away also - either that or standing defiantly and glaring at Him. Sigh

13 posted on 06/19/2005 11:29:48 AM PDT by lupie
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"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,God gave them over to areprobat emind,to do those things which are not convienent." Romans 1:28 seems to me the Bible has the answer to every question.


14 posted on 06/19/2005 12:57:35 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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