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Confessions of a Right-Wing Liberal
Von Mises Institute ^ | June 15, 1968 | Murray N. Rothbard

Posted on 06/18/2005 3:59:51 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis

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1 posted on 06/18/2005 3:59:51 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis
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To: Remember_Salamis

I thought I was a right wing liberal.
and that definition is simple:
They get a fair trial before we hang 'em.


2 posted on 06/18/2005 4:04:49 PM PDT by stylin19a (Suicide bomber ??? "I came to the wrong jihad")
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To: Remember_Salamis

Not wanting homosexuality promoted in the schools and endorsed and approved of by the gov't is hardly coercing morality. Nor is protecting the life of the unborn. The coercing is on the other side. The left wants the public forced to formally approve of homosexuality and they want doctors and pharmacists forced to perform abortions or at least provide the drugs to induce abortions. They also want children introduced to perverse sexual behaviors and forced to "respect" them by the government.


3 posted on 06/18/2005 4:06:01 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Ah yes, the bad old good old days! Russell Kirk's The Conservative Mind is still a great read....but Schlesinger was never a centrist in my book. That commie spoke at my graduation and almost ruined an otherwise fine day.


4 posted on 06/18/2005 4:11:32 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Remember_Salamis

Anarchist babble. I'll stick with Brent Bozell, thanks.


5 posted on 06/18/2005 4:12:51 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't.)
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Two rights make a left.


6 posted on 06/18/2005 4:35:02 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Remember_Salamis

Whoo boy! Self-centered AND long winded!


7 posted on 06/18/2005 4:49:57 PM PDT by America's Resolve (Liberal Democrats are liars, cheats and thieves with no morals, scruples, ethics or honor!)
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Today, I am most likely to be called an extreme leftist, since I favor immediate withdrawal from Vietnam, denounce U.S. imperialism, advocate Black Power and have just joined the new Peace and Freedom Party.

"Black Power"? What exactly is the "right-wing" appeal there? Isn't that movement the one where those Olympic athletes raised a Communist-style clenched-fist salute while the National Anthem was playing?

8 posted on 06/18/2005 5:32:29 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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America was born in a revolution against Western imperialism, born as a haven of freedom against the tyrannies and despotism, the wars and intrigues of the old world. Yet we have allowed ourselves to sacrifice the American ideals of peace and freedom and anti-colonialism on the altar of a crusade to kill communists throughout the world;

So what? we should have let the commies win? This is just more of the isolationist crap that spews frequently from the mouth of such luminaries as Patrick J. Buchanan.

9 posted on 06/18/2005 6:17:21 PM PDT by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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Actually, Buchanan mostly defended our Cold War anticommunist policies.
10 posted on 06/18/2005 7:00:24 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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Actually, Buchanan mostly defended our Cold War anticommunist policies.

Buchanan believes we should shut down this country and draw into ourselves. This policy is shown to be foolish whenever it is attempted. Active engagement in the world is the only safe path for America.

11 posted on 06/18/2005 7:03:15 PM PDT by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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Buchanan believes we should shut down this country

What are you talking about?

and draw into ourselves. This policy is shown to be foolish whenever it is attempted.

If you mean mind our own business, it was mostly our policy throughout the 19th century, and it worked pretty well for us. Would it have been foolish in WWI, when our intervention laid the groundwork for Nazi Germany?

12 posted on 06/18/2005 7:14:35 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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If we had "minded our own business" we would either be a vassal nation for Germans or communists, or be a very weak, friendless nation just waiting to see who was going to snatch us up. Isolationism is bad policy.


13 posted on 06/18/2005 7:18:30 PM PDT by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Marked for later reading


14 posted on 06/19/2005 6:18:56 AM PDT by frithguild (Defining hypocrisy - Liberals fear liberty.)
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To: Stonedog
More like, if we hadn't gotten involved in WWI, there would have been no Nazism, and if Russia even went Communist at all, it would have been easily contained by Germany and Japan. Those guys would have been fighting each other, rather than fighting us.

And there's nothing that would have made us "weak". We could still have had a world-class military.

15 posted on 06/19/2005 9:27:15 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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Economic Isolationism is VERY BAD, while political isolationism is not necessarily a bad thing.

Pat Buchannan advocates both, and that is why I do not a gree with him.

Throughout the 19th century, we practiced economic interaction with the world while practicing political isolationism; it worked then and it can work now.


16 posted on 06/19/2005 3:26:28 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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The lone super power putting its head in the sand and ignoring evil in a world that is increasingly interdependent in every way imaginable, is not a wise long term strategy, either for the welfare of the planet or of this nation. Dorothy can't go back to Kansas again. It is no longer there to go back to. But then libertarians were never ranked very high on the practicality meter. It was and is, all cattle, no hat.


17 posted on 06/19/2005 3:33:13 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: inquest

Have you read "A Politically-Incorrect Guide To American History" by libertarian/paleoconservative Dr. Thomas Woods?

He argues that every conflict the US has gotten involved in since the Revolutionary War (Save the Mexican-American War) was unwarranted:

1. The War of 1812 was a rather pointless war started by the young "War Hawks" (that is where the term came from) in Congress who wanted to prove the US was a big player on the world stage.

2. The Civil War was fought to secure Lincoln's tax base.

3. The US started the Spanish-American war

4. We had no "dog in tyhe fight" in WWI and the Kaiser's Germany wasn't that bad.

5. In WWII we should have let the Nazis and the Communists wipe each other out and should have only gone after the Japanese (who attacked us). Pat Buchannan has taken this position as well. This may very well have prevented the Cold War.

6. The Korean War happened because Truman's SecState baited Stalin to go South by stating that we would not defend the Peninsula.


18 posted on 06/19/2005 3:35:34 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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To: Torie

you mean all hat, no cattle.


19 posted on 06/19/2005 3:36:09 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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Ya, that too. It is tough being a left coaster affecting Texas talk.


20 posted on 06/19/2005 3:38:39 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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