[infidel29]

In California, groundbreaking new crime detection tools are being proposed that would help law enforcement use bullet shells to track down and prosecute gun criminals.

...and it has cost how many million dollars to implement ?... and it has never led to any arrest or conviction of an offender in a gun crime.

How many times do we have to hear about the "gun show loophole?"

A quote: "If a man is willing to use a gun in the commition of a crime it stands to reason that he would be willing to commit a crime to obtain a gun."--Benjamin Franklin

[elbucko]

A quote: "If a man is willing to use a gun in the commition of a crime it stands to reason that he would be willing to commit a crime to obtain a gun."--Benjamin Franklin

Good one! Worth repeating, often.

Furthermore, the quote begs the question whether or not the Founding Fathers pondered citizens and guns. It seems that they did, and did approve of "the people" being armed.

[RKV]

I will make the same comment to you that I made to Elbucko (in the interests of fairness). Care to prove that quote is from Ben Franklin? Bet you can't. I wish you could, but I really doubt it.

[gatex]

"A quote: "If a man is willing to use a gun in the commition of a crime it stands to reason that he would be willing to commit a crime to obtain a gun."--Benjamin Franklin "

I join the others in questioning your quote.

It is not in my small book Ben Franklin's Wit and Wisdom , and is not even close to his manner of speech in the book.