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1 posted on 06/17/2005 9:26:27 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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Damn, we are going to need a mess of illegals to move the load of crap this article is dishing out. (assuming it's a job no American wants.)


46 posted on 06/18/2005 1:05:51 AM PDT by politicalwit (USA...A Nation of Selective Law Enforcement.)
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In essence, you have a system that encourages the most desirable illegal immigrants, and discourages the rest. Americans then get the best of both worlds: cheap labor to do the backbreaking work that most in this society wouldn't want to do, and a competitive price for fresh fruits, vegetables and many other things dependent on manual labor. (my emphasis)

Does it really take 11 million illegals here already and more on the way to pick the fruits & vegetables?

About the only thing they're ever right about on this contentious subject is that if the U.S. government wanted to do something about illegal immigration, it could.

The truth, of course, is that the government doesn't want to do anything about it

— and for good reason.

Our somewhat lax and paradoxical border policy is driven by something very basic: money and economics.

The government's desire not to do anything concrete about it is self evident. They just hold enough meetings, press conferences and hearings to give appearances of addressing the situation, creating enough activity to mollify the masses before they decide to tar and feather them. The day will come when people of concern and courage wipe the smirk off the politician's faces as they stand before the nation and lie and lie and lie.

If we find it too difficult to remove 11,000,000+ illegals, then let's focus on a much easier task of removing 535 from Congress and 1 from the white house!

48 posted on 06/18/2005 3:40:34 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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bump for later


49 posted on 06/18/2005 3:44:52 AM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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Are Americans willing to pay $4 instead of $1 for a head of lettuce?

This is specious, steaming crap.

It infers that the labor cost of a legal worker would be $3 per head.

If we assume a "burdened" labor rate of $20 per hour (including taxes, unemployment insurance, etc), if the picker is picking one head of lettuce a minute, that works out to 33 cents per head. And I suspect the actual rate of lettuce-picking is far faster than one head per minute.

52 posted on 06/18/2005 4:18:19 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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The CEO is a scofflaw pinhead.


54 posted on 06/18/2005 6:05:32 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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The elephant in the living room is not security, not even the price of lettuce.

People object because of what is happening to our culture due to immigrants who won't assimilate.


BUMP

55 posted on 06/18/2005 6:07:22 AM PDT by tm22721
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The truth, of course, is that the government doesn't want to do anything about it

Well that's at least one true sentence in the entire article. What did Fox say, "Mexico is going to be one nation with America and Canada." To ensure this Fox and Bush need many many Mexican votes, which they will have. Six thousand illegals come to America every day. All will be made citizens before Bush leaves office. And America as we have known it will be no more.

57 posted on 06/18/2005 7:07:04 AM PDT by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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Our somewhat lax and paradoxical border policy is driven by something very basic: money and economics.

The real driving force for immigration changes since the 60s is racial and internationalist ideology, not economics. Does anyone think that the leftists who were its chief instigators and are its chief supporters and who block any attempt to control the border are driven by pro-business sentiment?

really wouldn't want the situation to change if they realized what the true costs to our economy and society would be.

What are the true costs?

The late Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Ottoman Empire, and the dominions of the Habsburgs and the Romanoffs, among others, all presided over a kind of rainbow coalition of nations and peoples, who for the most part managed to live happily because their secret compulsions to spill each other's blood was restrained by the overwhelming power of the despots and dynasties who ruled them.

Political freedom relies on a shared political culture as much as on the oppositions and balances that social differentiation creates, and when the common culture disintegrates under the impact of mass migrations, only institutionalized force can hold the regime together.


60 posted on 06/18/2005 8:59:53 AM PDT by jordan8
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In essence, you have a system that encourages the most desirable illegal immigrants, and discourages the rest.

What a lie!! We are supposed to believe that importing illiterate, American welfare-dependent, possibly diseased people from a failed third world country is the ONLY way to save America?

They'll never sell this whopper to Americans, because we know it's a lie.

The only way to discourage "the rest" is to cut off all benefits of American citizenship to ALL illegal aliens, build a wall, and actually ENFORCE EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAWS.

63 posted on 06/18/2005 11:17:30 AM PDT by janetgreen
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Right, and then we all die of leprosy and Chagas, our entire southwest becomes Aztlan and whites are kicked out or killed, drugs and violent criminal gangs become more prevalent than they already are, terrorists are allowed in at will, healthcare costs skyrocket and more hospitals are shut down, our public education drowns in a quagmire, George Soros gets elected President because illegals can now vote and he's the main one pushing for this, the U.S. becomes the third world from overpopulation, somebody here illegally who's stolen my social security number isn't trying to get a job/house/car in my name or on my credit, etc. etc. etc.

I can't believe this was actually posted. I want Borderless Bush impeached for the way that he has deserted America on this issue. I'll pay extra for lettuce that I know hasn't touched hands that were infested with trypanosome. I'll pay more to have my lawn cut or my deck powerwashed if I know that the people who do it aren't going to kill me later for my skin color.

The only reason that Borderless Bush isn't doing anything about this is that he's afraid of offending Hispanics and his buddies in corporate America who want to hire cheap labor at the expense of public safety. I can't believe I voted for the man twice. He really put one over on me and the rest of America. Or Los Estados Unidos d'Americo, as it will be known after his term. Then he'll go down to Mexico and be Vicente Fox's V.P.


73 posted on 06/20/2005 3:40:01 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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