[bayourod]

"United States laws are for the protection of United States citizens. If these laws are to be interpreted as laws for "anyone" then sovereignty no longer exists."

The Fourteenth Amendment reads in part as follows:

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "

Non citizens have to be given the same protections of the law as citizens. That's the Constitution. What don't you understand about the Constitution?

[Jeff Head]

You stated that, "United States laws are for the protection of United States citizens. If these laws are to be interpreted as laws for "anyone" then sovereignty no longer exists."

Bayourod replied with the 14th Amendment:

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "

My own opinion is that those two views are not mutually exclusive as bayourod would emply. If the illegals are to provided with equal protection under the law, and due process, which I believe they should be, then that also means that they are bound to obey and follow and respect those same laws. Equal protection cuts both ways...we are entitled to be protected from their illegal activities.

The fact is...what they are doing is illegal and they need to be prosecuted according to the law, equally just as if someone were committing illegal acts against them.

IMHO, they need to be deported and told to come in through the legally proscribed means. They need to be registered as someone who attempted to enter illegally and informed that in repeat offenses they may well be incarcerated and put to work benefitting this country, before they are deported again...and so on and so forth. But that is just my opinion on the matter.

In my estimation, the arguement that the issue of illegality is a non-issue in this debate is demonstrably patently wrong. It has everything to do with it. According to the 14th amendment and the constitution, those illegals are responsible for their acts and must be held accountable for their illegalities precisely because there is equal protection under the law.

Gotta go.