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To: taxesareforever
"I would like some cold hard facts that illegals are paying taxes. "

Taxes are not voluntary. Illegal immigrants have to pay them just like everyone else.

Employers who fail to withhold IRS taxes go to prison regularly. Employers who deduct less labor costs than standard for their business category get audited.

9 posted on 06/17/2005 9:53:43 PM PDT by bayourod
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To: bayourod
Wow. Where have I been? I haven't heard of one employer even going to trial, let alone prison.
10 posted on 06/17/2005 9:55:56 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: bayourod
Taxes are not voluntary. Illegal immigrants have to pay them just like everyone else.

Except if they get paid cash under the table. Then no taxes are taken out. Do you think the contractors who hire all of those day laborers are taking the required taxes out of the wages that they're paying them? Only a fool would believe that.

Employers who fail to withhold IRS taxes go to prison regularly.

This has happened perhaps a few times in the last 10 years. And you call that regularly?

24 posted on 06/17/2005 10:40:01 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: bayourod

"Taxes are not voluntary. Illegal immigrants have to pay them just like everyone else.

Employers who fail to withhold IRS taxes go to prison regularly. Employers who deduct less labor costs than standard for their business category get audited."

This may be a dumb question, but that's never stopped me before. Sure, an employer can withhold taxes from a paycheck, but how then does the employer report that money to the IRS when the employee DOES NOT LEGALLY EXIST? And if these people are independent contractors, to what does the IRS match the 1099s? The "taxpayers" in these cases are not filing returns.

I don't buy that they pay taxes. And even if they do, that is no justification for criminality. The ends do not justify the means....only in the minds of 'progressives'.


38 posted on 06/17/2005 11:10:11 PM PDT by LostInBayport (Massachusetts liberals refuse to admit we exist...we are the 37% who voted for GWB)
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To: bayourod
Taxes are not voluntary. Illegal immigrants have to pay them just like everyone else.

Pretty funny. As one who worked for the IRS, going after non-filers and non-payers, let me tell you the non-compliance among "immigrants" is very, very high. In fact, I received an award from the President (of the U.S.) for discovering a fraudulent tax refund scheme originated by an "immigrant" advocate, using falsified ID's from non-existent "citizens".

You have no idea just how huge the tax fraud is originating from residents south of the border.

Think about it... if these illegals are paid so low that they are called "poor" and "oppressed" they wouldn't owe any taxes--they'd get Earned Income Credit refunds...If they would file tax returns--few do.

The illegals have discovered the tax loophole favored by home-grown tax cheats: Independent Contractor. No withholding, no filing, get welfare while making $100,000 a year. By the time the IRS catches up to them they're long gone. The employment tax regulations are so weak employers failing to issue 1099's are rarely caught and/or punished.

43 posted on 06/17/2005 11:24:31 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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