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House Passes Bill to Slash Funds to U.N.
AP by Yahoo ^ | 6/17/2005 | JIM ABRAMS (AP)

Posted on 06/17/2005 12:10:30 PM PDT by SamFromLivingston

Edited on 06/17/2005 2:59:48 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON - Culminating years of frustration with the performance and behavior of the United Nations, the House voted Friday to slash U.S. contributions to the world body if it does not substantially change the way it operates.

The 221-184 vote, which came despite a Bush administration warning that such a move could actually sabotage reform efforts, was a strong signal from Congress that a policy of persuasion wasn't enough to straighten out the U.N.

"We have had enough waivers, enough resolutions, enough statements," said House International Relations Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill., the author of the legislation. "It's time we had some teeth in reform."

The legislation would withhold half of U.S. dues to the U.N.'s general budget if the organization did not meet a list of demands for change. Failure to comply would also result in U.S. refusal to support expanded and new peacekeeping missions. The bill's prospects in the Senate are uncertain.

Just prior to the final vote, the House rejected, 216-190, an alternative offered by the top Democrat on the International Relations Committee, Tom Lantos of California, that also would have outlined U.N. reforms but would have left it to the discretion of the secretary of state whether to withhold U.S. payments.

During the two days of debate, legislators discussed the seating of such human rights abusers as Cuba and Sudan on the U.N. Commission on Human Rights and the oil-for-food program that became a source of up to $10 billion in illicit revenue for former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

Rep. Jeff Fortenberry, R-Neb., won backing for an amendment under which the United States would use its influence to ensure that any member engaged in acts of genocide or crimes against humanity would lose its U.N. membership and face arms and trade embargoes.

Hyde was joined by lawmakers with a litany of complaints against what they said was the U.N.'s lavish spending, its coddling of rogue regimes, its anti-America, anti-Israel bias and recent scandals such as the mismanagement of the oil-for-food program in Iraq and the sexual misconduct of peacekeepers.

The administration on Thursday had urged the Republican-led House to reconsider the legislation. The administration said in a statement that it is actively engaged in U.N. reform, and the Hyde bill "could detract from and undermine our efforts."

Eight former U.S. ambassadors to the United Nations, including Madeleine Albright and Jeane Kirkpatrick, also weighed in, telling lawmakers in a letter that withholding of dues would "create resentment, build animosity and actually strengthen opponents of reform."

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan expressed support earlier this week for another congressional effort to bring about U.N. reform. A task force led by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Republican, and former Senate Majority leader George Mitchell, a Democrat, recommended such changes as setting up an independent auditing board and weighted voting on financial issues for members who contribute more to the budget.

Also Thursday, the administration supported a measured expansion of the Security Council, but said widespread reform of the United Nations takes precedence.

"We are not prepared to have Security Council reform sprint out ahead of the other extremely important reforms that have to take place," Rice said at a news conference. She cited management, peace-building and halting the proliferation of dangerous weapons technology.

The bill, with amendments, lists 46 reforms sought. They include cutting the public information budget by 20 percent, establishing an independent oversight board and an ethics office, and denying countries that violate human rights from serving on human rights commissions.

The secretary of state would have to certify that 32 of the 39 reforms have been met by September 2007, and all 39 by the next year, to avoid a withdrawal of 50 percent of assessed dues.

U.S.-assessed dues account for about 22 percent of the U.N.'s $2 billion annual general budget.

The financial penalties would not apply to the U.N.'s voluntarily funded programs, which include UNICEF and the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.


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To: Ravi

Heck, could be a Freeper based on the lede.


101 posted on 06/17/2005 7:37:13 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: SamFromLivingston

Anyone have a link to the full list of demands?

An efficient well functioning UN is even scarier than the rats nest of donothings we have now.


102 posted on 06/17/2005 7:51:29 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: inquest

It means reporting it without mentioning that “little” fact is not the whole truth. In other words, a lie.


103 posted on 06/17/2005 8:16:44 PM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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To: inquest

Yes. The same Bush of the father who declared that there was a "New World Order".


104 posted on 06/17/2005 8:19:28 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter for SCOTUS!)
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To: Carry_Okie
" According to the email I get from ALRA, the White House (particularly Dick Cheney) and Chuck Hagel have been the instigators in trying to push this treaty through in the dark of night after the Reagan Administration had rejected it out of hand. "

This News Max of the left site presents another side to that as well. Both look like half truths and a waste of time.

Myth: President Reagan was opposed to UNCLOS.

Fact: All of President Reagan’s objections to UNCLOS have been addressed. In 1983, President Reagan said that the treaty strongly supported U.S. interests except for one section, which dealt with deep seabed mining. With this in mind, President Reagan directed U.S. agencies to comply with the entire treaty except the part dealing with deep seabed mining. In his Statement on Oceans Policy, he said that the Convention “contains provisions with respect to traditional uses of the oceans which generally confirm existing maritime law and practice and fairly balance the interests of all states.”

Reagan further declared, “First, the United States is prepared to accept and act in accordance with the balance of interests relating to traditional uses of the oceans -- such as navigation and overflight. In this respect, the United States will recognize the rights of other states in the waters off their coasts, as reflected in the Convention, so long as the rights and freedoms of the United States and others under international law are recognized by such coastal states.

“Second, the United States will exercise and assert its navigation and overflight rights and freedoms on a worldwide basis in a manner that is consistent with the balance of interests reflected in the convention. The United States will not, however, acquiesce in unilateral acts of other states designed to restrict the rights and freedoms of the international community in navigation and overflight and other related high seas uses.

“Third, I am proclaiming today an Exclusive Economic Zone in which the United States will exercise sovereign rights in living and nonliving resources within 200 nautical miles of its coast [as provided for in UNCLOS]. This will provide United States jurisdiction for mineral resources out to 200 nautical miles that are not on the continental shelf. Recently discovered deposits there could be an important future source of strategic minerals.”

In 1994, U.S. negotiators succeeded in amending the disputed provisions to reflect all of President’s Reagan’s concerns. All of the State Department’s living former Legal Advisors (representing both Democratic and Republican Administrations) signed a letter to that effect. The letter states: “[T]he Reagan Administration’s objection to the LOS Convention, as expressed in 1982 and 1983, was limited to the deep seabed mining regime. The 1994 Implementing Agreement…satisfactorily resolved that objection and has binding legal effect in its modification of the LOS Convention."

I really want no part of this thread.
105 posted on 06/17/2005 8:33:38 PM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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To: elfman2
I really want no part of this thread.

I don't give a crap what Reagan said his reasons were for rejecting the treaty. When you have done a tenth as much research into treaty law and environmental regulation as I have, you would take the legal portent of LOST a lot more seriously, especially as regards TMDL regulations.

106 posted on 06/17/2005 8:46:51 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Because it is a treaty, the House has no say in it at all.

What?

107 posted on 06/17/2005 8:50:17 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thanks for the ping!


108 posted on 06/17/2005 8:50:33 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: EternalVigilance
okay.


109 posted on 06/17/2005 8:54:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: hineybona
"Throw the bums out of NYC..NOW !"

The Dems or the UN?

110 posted on 06/17/2005 9:15:12 PM PDT by de Buillion (Sen. Cornyn-Here come da judge!)
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To: SamFromLivingston
The bill's prospects in the Senate are uncertain.

I think I can predict where McCrazy and Specter will land on this.

111 posted on 06/17/2005 9:15:59 PM PDT by angkor
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To: ken5050

You are absolutely correct, the House has an absolute lock on the purse-strings.


112 posted on 06/17/2005 9:19:06 PM PDT by de Buillion (Sen. Cornyn-Here come da judge!)
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To: inquest

Thank you for posting this, it has totally altered my opinion of this bill. RON PAUL ROCKS!!!! (He even used to be my congress-critter, I think).


113 posted on 06/17/2005 9:28:38 PM PDT by de Buillion (Sen. Cornyn-Here come da judge!)
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To: dfwgator
Ron Paul is an idiot....
he would rather take a sack than move the ball toward the goal line.

There is NO WAY Ron Paul or any other few members of congress would get rid of the UN altogether (at least not without trying to change it first), and demands for consistency on human rights/membership and ethics would be a big move toward changing the UN.

114 posted on 06/17/2005 11:38:42 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: SamFromLivingston
Eight former U.S. ambassadors to the United Nations, including Madeleine Albright and Jeane Kirkpatrick, also weighed in, telling lawmakers in a letter that withholding of dues would "create resentment, build animosity and actually strengthen opponents of reform."
Well, sending them all of the money that has been sent for years hasn't exactly caused any of those sentiments to be reversed so why should withholding the money make things worse? Seems to me to be a no-win situation. Damned if we do and damned if we don't.
It's a shame they don't list all eight ambassadors so we could see who all they are and compare their past actions with their current objections.
115 posted on 06/18/2005 12:03:26 AM PDT by philman_36 ("It’s a legal document, and legal documents do not change." Scalia)
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To: topher

You're right.... my bad.... got to remember that for the future....


116 posted on 06/18/2005 2:09:17 AM PDT by schwing_wifey (Coffee, Today's Toons, and Flaming Trolls - Yeeeaaaarrrgggggg PDT +9hours)
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To: SamFromLivingston

Good!


117 posted on 06/18/2005 2:10:53 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: pbrown
I'll bring some extra chips...just incase there aren't enough. :-)

Thanks... I started figuring out the liquor bill and I'm not sure if I'll have enough left over for food...
;D
118 posted on 06/18/2005 2:13:06 AM PDT by schwing_wifey (Coffee, Today's Toons, and Flaming Trolls - Yeeeaaaarrrgggggg PDT +9hours)
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To: cake_crumb
Heh, heh...that's why I surfed on over here. To read the replies. It'll never pass in the Senate, of course. The UN is their Pharaoh. But it's a start.

Just tie the funding in the Senate to allowing a vote on Bolton. Unleashing Bolton on the UN should be as good if not better as this House bill...

119 posted on 06/18/2005 2:13:21 AM PDT by topher (One Nation under God -- God bless and protect our troops)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I don't think you saw my point. This bill is motivated by substantially the same ideology as the one that led to Bolton's nomination. In both cases, it's not an anti-UN ideology, but rather an ideology that calls for a more "effective" UN (though it's hostile to the current UN leadership, which is why the Dems don't like it). Now Bush may have some reservations about this bill's particular method of accomplishing that, but he definitely agrees with the goal, so he's not likely to be as opposed to it as the article makes him out to be.
120 posted on 06/18/2005 5:56:17 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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