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Al-Qaida camp in Pakistan?
UPI ^ | June 17, 2005 | Arnaud de-Borchgrave

Posted on 06/17/2005 11:59:35 AM PDT by Saberwielder

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It appears more and more likely that the FBI affidavit was correct. Musharraf is letting a terrorist camp thrive right in his backyard and we expect him to clean up Al Qaeda.
1 posted on 06/17/2005 11:59:35 AM PDT by Saberwielder
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To: Saberwielder
Pakistan even prior to the Musharraf takeover has always maintained a studied distinction between what it calls 'freedom-fighters' and 'terrorists'.

Both groups are jihadi in nature but the distinction is this - if a jihadi group targets violence inside Pakistan, then its a Terrorist group. If the violence is against India, its a freedom-fighter group totally deserving of moral, political, diplomatic and military support.

America's willingness to be played time and again is befuddling, to say the least!
2 posted on 06/17/2005 12:06:32 PM PDT by voletti (One Ring to rule them all, one Ring to find them....)
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To: Saberwielder

We should just go bomb the hell out of it and deny the whole thing afterwards.


3 posted on 06/17/2005 12:15:47 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Saberwielder
Many people know what's going on. That's why they think military equipment sale to Pakistan is insanity .

Terrorists are terrorists. And Pakistan is the unstable cradle of terrorism.

4 posted on 06/17/2005 12:16:00 PM PDT by ARridgerunner
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To: Saberwielder
If its in the middle east and we haven't been there yet, chances are Al Qaeda is.
5 posted on 06/17/2005 12:17:07 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: Dog

Some names here that you might be interested in.


7 posted on 06/17/2005 12:27:24 PM PDT by Peach
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And Pakistan is the unstable cradle of terrorism.
And Saudi Arabia is the unstable cradle of terrorism.
And Iran is the unstable cradle of terrorism.
And Syria is the unstable cradle of terrorism.
And Albania is the unstable cradle of terrorism.



I am seeing a pattern here.


9 posted on 06/17/2005 12:43:42 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the government's POWER and SIZE down.)
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To: JanCBurton

Everyone knows where Al Qaeda'a base is.

SAUDI ARABIA!



no

Everyone knows where Al Qaeda'a base is.
ISLAM!


10 posted on 06/17/2005 12:44:25 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the government's POWER and SIZE down.)
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To: Saberwielder

http://www.saag.org/papers15/paper1420.html

JIHAD IN US: FROM PAKISTAN WITH LOVE

Hey, all that money the USA has sent Pakistan is paying off.

Jihadi camps are wired!! Broadband. Pentium 10's. The little jihadis are better educated than their forebearers. It's like an extension of the nochildleftbehind for Pakistan.


No Jihadi Left Behind


13 posted on 06/17/2005 1:09:53 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: lugsoul

Ping to above - I know, redundancy redux.....


14 posted on 06/17/2005 1:17:51 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Saberwielder
Musharraf is letting a terrorist camp thrive right in his backyard and we expect him to clean up Al Qaeda.

You simply haven't a clue - Your above comments make this clear regarding what you claim Musharraf is letting happen along with your silly assumption of what we expect from him -

Neither thought is any where near accurate - Nor is your oddly childish comment (on the duplicate thread that was pulled) claiming I see Musharraf as some type of "hero".

Simply childish on your part - But again, you are appearing more and more like those Democrats who constantly want to blame President GWB for everything....yet offer no actual alternatives....(that can be implemented!!).

We are fighting and wining the GWOT - We continue to fight the most successful unconventional war in history!! (but again, just like the Democrats you continually suggest we aren't doing it well enough! - Please!).

Musharraf is dealing with a very complex situation. Much more complex than your silly postings (after post after post) of about faults within how the Pakistan political situation works. - With what Musharraf is dealing with he has done a pretty damn good job!

That is the bottom line - But again, you know more than our Military Command, our President, our SecDef and our SecState.....I know, I know.

You act as if Musharraf can magically make all sorts of changes and actions within Pakistan...and make them happen instantly..... the reality of the real world is much different (especially in a Country where a large segment does not necessarily like America that much) - It would be like criticizing GWB for not having private accounts yet with Social Security! - He is doing about as much as he can...but he needs the House and Senate to pull their weight as well (same holds true for Musharraf to a large extent).

15 posted on 06/17/2005 2:20:59 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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Yes, I'm wrong, conservative, pro-Bush analysts who criticize Musharraf are wrong, everyone is wrong and everything happens because Bush wishes it to happen that way.

Have you even bothered to read my posts before? You want alternatives? How about NOT sending F-16s until ALL terrorist camps are closed down? How about conditioning delivery of the payoffs that go into Musharraf's pocket based on the arrest and prosecution of terrorist leaders who train American Muslims in Pakistan's cities?

You have concocted the ridiculous idea that Bush wanted terrorist camps to be run in Pakistan as part of some grand plan. Tell that publicly and you'll be laughed out of the place. Do you have a single shred of evidence to support your idea that the US wanted these camps to be run deliberately? I thought so.

I for one WILL not accept that everything a government, even one led a Republican that I voted for, will always be perfect. By your logic, no one can criticize the current immigration policy because we "don't know better than the POTUS, Homeland Security Chief" etc. Why don't we all sing kumbiya and stop worrying about security, immigration etc. because the "people who know" are taking care of the problem?

In your world, everyone can sleep tight because "the government knows better." Suit yourself. But don't lash out just because you see some news you don't like.

I know one thing about America - we are a great nation because our informed citizens use the power of the ballot to steer our leaders when they stray from the path, instead of being subject drones.

16 posted on 06/17/2005 3:45:49 PM PDT by Saberwielder
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How about NOT sending F-16s until ALL terrorist camps are closed down?

Again, not an actual REAL alternative. Simply drivel.

But if you think we can shut down ALL camps in a Country where over 1/2 the population doesn't really like America that much....well if we can do that there.....Why don't we stop giving any and all new funding here in the States to any police departments until ALL unsolved murders are solved!

While we are at it why don't we just STOP all murders here in the United States. Lets just put every murderer in prison where they belong. I mean if we can just STOP these things by demanding they be stopped.

Wow, why hasn't anyone thought of this unique concept before! Genius.

17 posted on 06/17/2005 3:55:16 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Saberwielder
we are a great nation because our informed citizens use the power of the ballot to steer our leaders when they stray from the path, instead of being subject drones.

Exactly - and you are drone here with your senseless continuous criticism's of Musharraf (who is doing about as well as we can expect!).

It is you who is foolishly suggesting (a la the Democrat party of today) that we aren't winning the GWOT "good enough" - That we should be winning it "better" (for lack of a better term) -

The fact is the situation regarding Pakistan is extremely frustrating and complex. It is not as black and white as you suggest. Nor do you have any real alternatives. You simply want to b*tch about what Musharraf isn't doing (but give no intellectual thought to the actual realities on the ground within Pakistan!).

And lastly I will d*mn well guarantee you that you do NOT know more about what is going on in Pakistan than does our Military Command, nor our CIC, nor our SecDef, nor our SecState!

So, go on and NOT accept whatever is you will not accept (you have me confused here) - but just go about not accepting, even though you don't even have a full clue to what you are talking about. Strange way to live.

And if you can't see the forest for the trees regarding certain camps within Pakistan. Then simply stay angrily in the dark.

18 posted on 06/17/2005 4:02:27 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

I'll let all the Freepers who worry about immigration and other issues know that DevSix has just discovered that their worries are for nothing. The government knows all and knows what's best. Everything bad happens for a reason. Why do ordinary Americans like us have to worry about things we have no business worrying about? Them smart guys up in Washington know what's good for us. That is sooooooooooo comforting.


19 posted on 06/17/2005 7:20:51 PM PDT by Saberwielder
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Actually, why don't we build a monument to Mushaaraf and give him the medal of honor for building terrorist camps that we asked him to build so that he can train terorrists that we wanted to train?

Yes, that would be swell.

20 posted on 06/17/2005 7:24:41 PM PDT by Saberwielder
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