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Guantanamo critics are invited to go see conditions firsthand
SD Tribune ^ | 6/17

Posted on 06/17/2005 11:27:15 AM PDT by ambrose

Guantanamo critics are invited to go see conditions firsthand

By Otto Kreisher

COPLEY NEWS SERVICE

June 17, 2005

WASHINGTON – Two days after Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., likened the U.S. military's conduct at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to the brutal practices of the Nazi death camps and Josef Stalin's gulags, the Pentagon spokesman yesterday said such comments "reflect a real ignorance" of conditions at the detention facility for terrorism suspects.

The White House spokesman had an even harsher reaction, calling Durbin's statement on the Senate floor Tuesday "reprehensible."

Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita did not refer to Durbin by name. "We invite more members to go down to Guantanamo and see what's going on because what's going on down there is not the way it's being described by certain members of Congress," he said.

DiRita said the military would facilitate legislators' visits to Guantanamo to improve their understanding of the detention facility. "Comments that are being made up on Capitol Hill about what's happening at Guantanamo reflect a real ignorance of what's really going on down there," DiRita said.

Durbin press aide Joe Shoemaker said the senator has never visited Guantanamo.

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: durbin; gitmo
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To: Thumbellina

Durbin will just accuse the Administration of putting on a show. He will then cite an episode of Hogan's Heroes to bolster his case.


21 posted on 06/17/2005 1:27:46 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: ambrose

And they'd better not eat any of the roast pheasant---that's for the detainees.


22 posted on 06/17/2005 1:28:56 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: massgopguy

I don't think he can back off this one! Finally the media is on top of this one!


23 posted on 06/17/2005 1:30:05 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: cripplecreek
Of course, they have had continuous unfettered access to the detainees from the very begining. But they do not talk about it, they give their recommendations in private.
24 posted on 06/17/2005 4:03:39 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: firebrand
And they'd better not eat any of the roast pheasant---that's for the detainees.

Those army guys who eat in the mess hall must be salivating.

25 posted on 06/17/2005 4:22:15 PM PDT by moog
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To: softwarecreator
That's what I think, they are numbing it so much that pretty soon the Holocaust will be seen as nothing more than 6 million whining jews complaining because they got lousy room service during their all-explenses-paid weekend at the Berlin Hilton.

Both sides are doing it, throwing the Holocaust, Hitler, Nazis, etc. into the mix in order to stir people up. I'm getting tired of it myself.

26 posted on 06/17/2005 4:23:48 PM PDT by moog
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To: ambrose
I have a question for the left, one I'd like to see our pundits smash in their faces and watch them squirm about.

Since when did the left oppose Pol Pot? They attacked those fighting Pot, they defended the indefensible KR regime, they denied it was happening, when that wouldn't work anymore they tried to blame it on Nixon. Which is like trying to blame Winston Churchill for the death camps because he ordered Berlin bombed.

Since when did the left oppose Stalin? They attacked those who fought against Stalin. They played smash mouth when the gulag atrocities were revealed. They defended "revolutionary terror". They defended traitors who worked for Stalin, and smashed anyone who criticized those traitors. Leftists stole plans for the atom bomb and gave them to Joe Stalin, and the left defended those caught doing it. Leftists denied the terror famines, said New Soviet Man was going to save the world. They never stopped. They were still defending communists the day before the Berlin wall fell.

As for the Nazis, the left is defending them right this minute. The Baathist party running the terror war in Iraq is a Nazi party. It was founded by Nazis, allied to the Nazis during the war, aped the Nazis in policies, ran its own death camps, gased its own citizens, and they all want it left alone, and for our troops to leave, and let those Nazis back into power. The terrorists in the camps in Gitmo are Nazis. They saw off the heads of any Jew they can find because they are Nazis, no other reason needed. And the left is defending them as we speak.

So, where do they get off accusing moral men of things they have defended the real instances of for seven decades? As though they care about them. The only thing they care about is the defeat of the United States of America and smashing capitalism and freedom. It is all they have ever cared about and it is all they care about now.

27 posted on 06/17/2005 4:33:08 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: moog
I know what you mean, it's way out of hand.

Did you see the picture of Pres. Bush the other day?  I think it was AP that published it.  It was a pic of him with his arm raised in such a way and angle that it looked like he was giving the Nazi "Heil Hitler" salute to the crowd.

Of all the probably thousands of images of him available, that was the one they chose?  Coincidence?  Yet one they ran of Clinton the other day had an American flag behind him.

Nope, the media is not guilty of perpetuating this Bush=Hitler BS, are they?

28 posted on 06/17/2005 4:39:12 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: softwarecreator
I know what you mean, it's way out of hand. Did you see the picture of Pres. Bush the other day? I think it was AP that published it. It was a pic of him with his arm raised in such a way and angle that it looked like he was giving the Nazi "Heil Hitler" salute to the crowd. Of all the probably thousands of images of him available, that was the one they chose? Coincidence? Yet one they ran of Clinton the other day had an American flag behind him. Nope, the media is not guilty of perpetuating this Bush=Hitler BS, are they? YEEESH!! I know. I hate that. No matter how much someone hates President Bush, he will never be as evil as Hitler.

I am starting, however, to see the race card and like tactics creeping into the other side too. I hope that they are above that because the opposite side ain't.

29 posted on 06/17/2005 4:46:51 PM PDT by moog
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To: Sunshine Sister

I think he should stay there indefinitely.


30 posted on 06/17/2005 9:02:56 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: softwarecreator
"could anything be cuter than a child getting one in a box on xmas morning"

Yes: getting one in two boxes.

31 posted on 06/17/2005 9:04:40 PM PDT by Fabozz
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To: ambrose
Our guys played loud music for weeks, stopped all food and water from going into buildings and then burned the people to death. Yes, our government did it and the President approved it. And the dems didn't object!!!

Or as Rush would say, this was done at Waco. And the President was Cllinton. American citizens -- men, women, and children were tormented for weeks on end. Where were the cries of inhumane treatment? There were none. None from the dems. I suspect they care more about our enemy than about innocent children burned to death because they see this as a way to hurt Bush. I'm charmed -- as usual.

32 posted on 06/17/2005 9:10:54 PM PDT by GOPJ (Deep Throat(s) -- top level FBI officials playing cub reporters for suckers.)
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To: Thumbellina
Our guys played loud music for weeks, stopped all food and water from going into buildings and then burned the people to death. Yes, our government did it and the President approved it. And the dems didn't object!!!

Or as Rush would say, this was done at Waco. And the President was Cllinton. American citizens -- men, women, and children were tormented for weeks on end. Where were the cries of inhumane treatment? There were none. None from the dems. I suspect they care more about our enemy than about innocent children burned to death because they see this as a way to hurt Bush. I'm charmed -- as usual.

33 posted on 06/17/2005 9:13:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (Deep Throat(s) -- top level FBI officials playing cub reporters for suckers.)
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To: ambrose

Tha is a totally GREAT idea..I'm serious ..Why the hell doesn't some rep with BALLS say something like that to Durbin and co?Just once I'd love to hear someone in govt reallt tell it like it is. "Go down there big mouth , pick out a terrorist and take him home to your wife and kids".
I loved the other idea I saw just now. Let some Dems go to Gitmo and interview these bums one on one without a US mitalry person present...Someone please say that from the senate floor...But , alas, no one in the Republican party has any nerve anymore. It' feels like we lOST at times doesn't it ?


34 posted on 06/17/2005 9:17:43 PM PDT by hineybona
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To: Fabozz
Yes: getting one in two boxes.

Maybe one of those "chinese boxes" where the pieces get smaller with each new one you open?

35 posted on 06/17/2005 9:24:04 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: cripplecreek

"Does anyone know if red cross has an office at gitmo? I suspect that they do."

First aid or administrative?


36 posted on 06/17/2005 9:25:55 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Sunshine Sister
Durbin is agenda (hate) not fact motivated. Waste of time and money sending him. Suspect the same for other critics.
37 posted on 06/18/2005 12:22:20 AM PDT by ncountylee
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To: ambrose

Move Gitmo to northern Alaska.


38 posted on 06/18/2005 12:24:56 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Sounds of laughter, shades of life are ringing through my open ears exciting and inviting me)
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To: Sunshine Sister; ambrose
Durbin has never visited Gitmo. Imagine that!

He should be confined there.

;-)

39 posted on 06/18/2005 12:25:48 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Sounds of laughter, shades of life are ringing through my open ears exciting and inviting me)
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