[sauropod]

I really wish we had a viable alternative in '04. We didn't. (I say this as some one that voted CP in '96 and '00). The CP went off the reservation and lost my vote.

You have to admit though that John Kerry was an abysmal alternative.

That's their problem.

[Huck]

I really wish we had a viable alternative in '04. We didn't.

I agree. There was no viable alternative. That's why the mandate has to be discounted. If you take the pepsi challenge, with pepsi in one cup, and urine in the other, it's not really a ringing endorsement for pepsi, is it? That's why I say you can't look at the election results as an endorsement for the war.

(I say this as some one that voted CP in '96 and '00).

Oddly enough, I voted for GWB for the first time in 04, AFTR his team had totally botched this whole Iraq situation. Talk about a bitter pill. But Kerry was worse and that's that.

That's their problem.

No, it's all our problem. If we don't have two viable candidates, we've got a problem.