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Faithful Ancestors
Science News Magazine ^ | 6-11-2005 | Bruce Bower

Posted on 06/17/2005 8:33:25 AM PDT by blam

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To: Colonel Kangaroo
But the world was created in six EXACTLY 24 hour days? Seems your being pretty selective as to when God gets to be accurate and when it is OK for him to be inaccurate.
141 posted on 06/21/2005 9:49:41 AM PDT by Mylo
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To: Mylo
Where do YOU see second person, singular used in my post?

You are wrong.

142 posted on 06/21/2005 10:23:30 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
And no matter what the disagreement on what the Hebrew word in Isaiah 40:22 exactly means, it seems pretty clear that it does not say that the world is flat.

That may be so, but it also is not indicating that the earth is an oblate spheroid. Because the Bible isn't a science text.

143 posted on 06/21/2005 10:43:57 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: kinsman redeemer

Oh MY GOODNESS, and here I went and repeated what you intimated indirectly and used second person, singular! Please forgive me.


144 posted on 06/21/2005 10:50:07 AM PDT by Mylo
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To: Mylo

I forgave you before you asked.


145 posted on 06/21/2005 10:56:11 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: kinsman redeemer

Thanks!


146 posted on 06/21/2005 11:40:24 AM PDT by Mylo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Forensic science deals with phenomena that occurs in the here and now. Not a one time, never to be repeated event.

Really? Nicole Brown Simpson's murder is being repeated over and over again as I type this? She was murdered right now? We can repeat her murder to determine who did it? Apparently nobody other than Nicole Brown Simpson, the other guy who got killed and the killer were present for the murder. According to you then, there's no possible way to determine who did it? After all, nobody was there to observe it (other than two people who now are dead and a killer who isn't going to tell us what happened) and give an account of what happened. We can't repeat it. Therefore, science can't help us determine who killed her. Therefore, the OJ jury made the right decision.

So I maintain if the Bible is only partially true, it is false. I believe the discipline of logic refers to a law of the excluded middle.

Logic does have a law of the excluded middle. This states that the disjunction of a proposition and its negative is a tautology. In simpler language, the statement "A or not A" is always true, no matter what A is. The Bible is not a single statement, but rather a collection of logically independent statements. It has the form "A, B, C, D, ..., and Z." The law of excluded middle certainly doesn't apply to the Bible, and the truth value of any given statement in the Bible doesn't logically follow from the truth value of any other given statement. (This just is application of the laws of logic. It doesn't take into account any kind of theological constructs. For example, the truth value of the statement Jesus died to save us from our sins is independent of the truth value of Jesus is the son of God, even though they are related theologically.)

147 posted on 06/21/2005 12:50:11 PM PDT by stremba
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
I would personally expect that God could at least state the circumference as 31 cubits rather than 30 if the diameter is 10.
148 posted on 06/21/2005 1:03:12 PM PDT by stremba
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To: Mylo
I'm sorry but this....

did not evolve from this....

Believe it if YOU want, but I think your leap of faith is much greater than mine.

149 posted on 06/21/2005 1:18:11 PM PDT by Bryan24
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
"I've not found a Hebrew word for sphere. But even if there is one, the figure in this verse might have been meant to refer to the circuit around the spherical earth. And an advanced Biblical knowledge of the nature of the globe is indicated by Job 26:7 where the earth is said to "hang on nothing"."

Yes, it might have meant a spherical earth, however it would not imply supernatural knowledge even if it did. Knowing that the earth is round and suspended could just be the results of observation.

It doesn't matter if the church or science originally thought the earth was flat because that past knowledge does not impact current knowledge about the shape of the earth, nor does it impact the validity of religion and/or science.

150 posted on 06/21/2005 1:20:19 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: Bryan24

Um, yeah, whatever.

She has over 90% of the same DNA in common. The Fossil record indicates that they both have the same common ancestor. And there are only two changes in the chromosomal structure between them.

But I guess maybe it would be easier for you to believe that someone you think is UGLY shares a common ancestor with an Ape, like say Michael Moore?


151 posted on 06/21/2005 1:27:12 PM PDT by Mylo
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To: Bryan24
No one is claiming she did. But the attraction you feel towards her was programmed into you by evolution.
152 posted on 06/21/2005 1:29:55 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: b_sharp

Look Up. Mylo is.


153 posted on 06/21/2005 1:39:03 PM PDT by Bryan24
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To: Bryan24
"Look Up. Mylo is."

Actually Mylo is saying that the other apes and humans have a common ancestor or so (depending on which other ape we are discussing).

I suspect that males of our common ancestor just 'loved' to mate with the females of our common ancestor and considered them oh so 'hot'.

154 posted on 06/21/2005 3:17:44 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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156 posted on 04/21/2006 10:03:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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