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Hundreds push for answers in shooting death
AMERICAN-STATESMAN ^ | june 17, 2005 | Tony Plohetski

Posted on 06/17/2005 6:24:09 AM PDT by ken21

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1 posted on 06/17/2005 6:24:09 AM PDT by ken21
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To: ken21

What's the story behind the shooting?


2 posted on 06/17/2005 6:27:50 AM PDT by jtminton ("Dangit, Bobby, people will see that oil stain and think I'm a drunk.")
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To: ken21
Well, we heard from a mob.
Where is the report from the police as to what happened?

And I hope it's a bit more coherent than this barely disguised hissy-fit.

3 posted on 06/17/2005 6:28:32 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: jtminton

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1423236/posts


4 posted on 06/17/2005 6:30:14 AM PDT by ken21
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We're a part of society just like West Lake Hills, Bee Cave and 360. Why can't our kids get the same treatment, instead of being gunned down like dogs."

That's an easy one. Because the kids from the aforementioned areas don't fight police officers.


5 posted on 06/17/2005 6:30:49 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: ken21
Why can't our kids get the same treatment, instead of being gunned down like dogs."

I think I know the answer, but I prefer to hear the other side first, before commenting. Actually, I would like to hear both sides first. This article had lots of heat, but zero light.

6 posted on 06/17/2005 6:31:20 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Publius6961

there's a austin police pdf file available on the website.

it's NOT helpful.

the austin police have not represented themselves well.


7 posted on 06/17/2005 6:31:30 AM PDT by ken21
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Why would you call the newspaper the Austin Unamerican Stateswoman? Just about half of FR's audience might take issue with that.
8 posted on 06/17/2005 6:34:12 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Publius6961

agree.

1. lulac set up and controlled the meeting between the police and community. what's that tell you?

2. the austin police have not represented themselves well. they were silent too long.

one reason they gave was that no video of the altercation exists. community people give different statements if they know no video exists, so the austin police did not admit that there was no video, so as not to color the community statements.


9 posted on 06/17/2005 6:35:44 AM PDT by ken21
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To: Publius6961

Here's a little more info.
http://www.news8austin.com/content/your_news/?SecID=278&ArID=139205


10 posted on 06/17/2005 6:36:01 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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On Tuesday, the Austin American-Statesman reported that Schroeder had told investigators that she thought Rocha had taken her Taser during a struggle and was about to use it against her or her sergeant, Don Doyle. Knee said Doyle suffered a leg injury during the altercation.

Slam dunk.
You physically and violently resist arrest and you deserve whatever you get. And you don't get to choose the weapon of choice to subdue you.

End of story, as far as I'm concerned.
Yep, even if it's me or my son.

11 posted on 06/17/2005 6:36:16 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Clara Lou

it's a radical, feminist paper.

very anti-bush.


12 posted on 06/17/2005 6:36:25 AM PDT by ken21
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Sophia King, a mentally ill woman who was shot and killed by police in 2002

Of course the police are supposed to know everyone who is mentally ill. And the mentally ill can't possibly be dangerous. She had a knife, wouldn't drop it, and was about to attack her apartment supervisor.

Jesse Lee Owens, was shot and killed by an officer in 2003

Driving a stolen car, shot by the officer he had trapped in the car door (as he was driving away - officer half in, half out of car.)

Too bad the Austin American Statesman isn't the Austin Sun Statesman or some other. That way the acronym would be ASS, which is where most of their reporters pull their stories from.

13 posted on 06/17/2005 6:37:18 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Clara Lou

also, the austin paper editorialized that ann coulter's speech at the lbj center was:

"hate speech".


14 posted on 06/17/2005 6:41:22 AM PDT by ken21
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I wish I had remembered that this was going on last night. I wanted to show up to support APD. I actually have no trust whatsoever for the upper levels of APD, and regard Cheif Stan Knee as a political hack, but the officers on the street are generally a pretty good bunch.


15 posted on 06/17/2005 6:42:29 AM PDT by tarawa
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To: cweese
Around here in California, we call that "suicide by cop".

And, universally, if you have a fruitcake relative, make sure he/she has a keeper when going out.

16 posted on 06/17/2005 6:43:31 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: ken21
also, the austin paper editorialized that ann coulter's speech at the lbj center was: "hate speech".
So, your best insult is to change the name from "Statesman" to "Stateswoman"? You may have intended to insult the newspaper, but you insulted women instead.
17 posted on 06/17/2005 6:47:15 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: tarawa

i agree with you.

stan knee doesn't seem to represent himself and his officers well.

the investigation of the kurt jacobson motorcycle accident and police party was embarrassing. it clearly was a cover up.

while we're at it, the city manager, toby futrell's offer of a "forgiveable loan" caused a community uproar. then she rescinded the offer, creating an even greater community uproar. why is the city paying her to create social disharmony? and right in the middle is the newspaper feeding the fire.


18 posted on 06/17/2005 6:47:30 AM PDT by ken21
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To: Clara Lou

no sense of humor.

bye.


19 posted on 06/17/2005 6:54:06 AM PDT by ken21
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To: green iguana

agree.

this newspaper actually incites social unrest.


20 posted on 06/17/2005 6:55:53 AM PDT by ken21
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