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To: goldstategop

I only partialy agree with this analysis.It is globaly correct but you must keep in mind that debate exist in some european countries.It would be important to wonder what part
play the Churches in that picture.
I would prefer to speak of crisis(a big crisis)instead of totalitarianism.But certainly there is a risk of totalitarianism.
Concerning Ch.De Gaulle i think he is a part of the problem!
He was an old nationalist who called communists in his government after WW2...It seems that W.CHURCHIL,F.ROOSEVELT...EISENHOWER did not appreciate him.
His old-fashioned nationalism prevent him to choose between USA and USSR.He was the first to recognize CHINA of MAO TZE TOUNG...he took some distances with USA and tooke FRANCE out from OTAN.He made a stupid declaration about freedom in PNOM PENH as he left Asia to communism...The algerian war was a fiasco...
From a long time FRANCE is sick of his history.But the problem is not the same in the others european countries.That's why i could have some reservation about global judments on Europe


5 posted on 06/17/2005 2:23:09 AM PDT by Ulysse (FRENCH FOR BUSH)
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To: Ulysse
(I wish we could combine the two posts of this excellent piece - see Mal's posting of this article.) I love this commentary, but I am inclined to agree with Ulysse about CdG: I don't share the wistful nostalgia Mr. Johnson (& many others) seem to feel for the guy. He totally wussed out on NATO and contributed in no small part to the assessment of the french here and elsewhere as petty cowards seeking security for themselves by coasting on the coattails of other nations' courage.
6 posted on 06/17/2005 2:49:19 AM PDT by leilani
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