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Court rules that Holocaust survivors' lawsuit against the Vatican can proceed
Catholic News Agency ^ | Jun. 15, 2005

Posted on 06/16/2005 4:56:23 PM PDT by Jane_N

San Francisco, Jun. 15, 2005 (CNA) - A ruling this week by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld an earlier decision that Holocaust survivors can continue their claims against the Vatican for the restitution of funds plundered from former Yugoslavia during the Second World War.

The majority of the victims of genocide in Croatia during World War II were Orthodox Christian Serbs. More than 500,000 of them were liquidated by the Croatian Ustasha, with the backing of some Catholic clerics. These funds have been referred to as the Ustasha or Croatian treasury.

According to a report by Matt Abbott, the San Francisco court denied a Vatican petition for reconsideration and a request for an extraordinary en banc hearing. It also issued an amended opinion which indicated the Italian Peace Treaty of 1947 did not preclude the lawsuit because the Vatican was not a signatory to the treaty.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 9thcircus; balkans; catholic; croatia; holocaust; lawsuit; massmurder; ninthcircuit; planetzongo; ruling; serbia; theholysee; ustasha; ustashe; ustashi; vatican; vaticanclaim; ww2; yugoslavia
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1 posted on 06/16/2005 4:56:25 PM PDT by Jane_N
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To: Jane_N

While they're at it, can they call Dick Durbin as a witless witness?


2 posted on 06/16/2005 4:58:58 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Jane_N; jb6; Destro; FormerLib
Well, well....looks like the Croatians may have to pay for the crimes of their Nazis after all. And WHY not??? Just cause they got away with MASS murder for all these years doesn't mean they should NEVER pay.

There is no statute of limitations on murder.... even if the victims were just "mere" SERBS AND CHRISTIANS!! sarcasm off!!

3 posted on 06/16/2005 5:14:59 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: Lion in Winter

This come back to bite us in the butt over Sand Creek and other massacres.

If they want to sue the Vatican, let them do in Italy, Rome or Serbia.

Why should WE pick up the tab on it??

The U.S. spent enough money on the mess Europeans created.


4 posted on 06/16/2005 5:19:36 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Jane_N

Why is this in the US courts?


5 posted on 06/16/2005 5:22:25 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: theDentist
Are you aware of just what happened in Croatia during WWII???

Did you know about their infamous concentration camp, JASENOVIC??

Look it up at the Holocaust Museum in Washington.

And, yes it is sad but true.... the Croatians got away with it. And yes, there is evidence that there were SOME Roman Catholic clergy were actively involved with it.

SAD, very sad. Justice will be done here on earth MAYBE... but in the FINAL JUDGEMENT OF GOD ALMIGHTY.... FOR SURE!!

6 posted on 06/16/2005 5:22:34 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: ZULU
Just think.... in the FINAL JUDGEMENT OF GOD... those criminals WILL pay.

So why sue anybody? Why even try murders anywhere on earth at anytime?? Why, have any earthly trials at all??

Sure would save us ALL a lot of money not to have trials, jails and prisons!! And not having police to enforce laws... WOW!! Just think of ALL the money and TIME you could save!!! WOW! OH, WOW!!

As IF money was the only concern as far as justice is concerned. Silly me... to forget that MONEY is the most important thing in the world.

7 posted on 06/16/2005 5:30:41 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: Lion in Winter

Anyone in 2005 isn't seeking justice. They want free money.


8 posted on 06/16/2005 5:30:43 PM PDT by SteveMcKing (What happens in Vegas -- stays on your record.)
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To: 2banana

The 9th Circuit is not in the United States. They're on Planet Zongo.


9 posted on 06/16/2005 5:31:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Children don't need counting, because whatever number you have, you never have enough.")
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To: 2banana
Why is this in the US courts?

It's not. The ninth cicuit is not a court it is a circus.

10 posted on 06/16/2005 5:34:00 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: SteveMcKing
Ah, yes... just money!! LOL!!

They might want their own money that wound up in somebody else's BANK ACCOUNT.

OH, how crude of them to want their OWN MONEY BACK!! Or even the money of their families that we murdered by Croatian nazis.

I sure hope you never get robbed and even think of sueing to get it back... why that would a TERRIBLE thing for you to do... SUE to get your money back!!

Just think, somebody has gotten away with stealing and killing for along time now. But, to you... that is OK....

Nevermind replying to me. I have my opinion and I WILL KEEP IT. I am on the side of JUSTICE!!

Whereas you, are on the OTHER SIDE.

11 posted on 06/16/2005 5:39:11 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: Alouette; SJackson

PING!!


12 posted on 06/16/2005 5:40:26 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: Lion in Winter
Are you aware of just what happened in Croatia during WWII???

I am not aware...Are you saying the Catholic church had set up a prison camp for Jews???

13 posted on 06/16/2005 5:41:15 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park!!!)
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To: Jane_N

Lawyers will profit again....There is no goal but profit for them.


14 posted on 06/16/2005 5:41:47 PM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: Lion in Winter

Take a valium Lion. I'm not doing anything more than noting how Dick Durbin uses the Holocaust as just a useful tool of rhetoric.


15 posted on 06/16/2005 5:46:12 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Lion in Winter

LOL!!

Writing LIKE THIS doesn't IMPRESS me!

LOL!!

It certainly IS NOT their "OWN MONEY" that they "WANT BACK!!"

LOL!!

It IS vindictive AND petty TO SEEK damages 60+ years AFTER THE fact!!

LOL!!

LOL!!

LOL!!


16 posted on 06/16/2005 5:56:55 PM PDT by SteveMcKing (What happens in Vegas -- stays on your record.)
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To: SteveMcKing

Snicker!


17 posted on 06/16/2005 5:59:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Children don't need counting, because whatever number you have, you never have enough.")
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To: Petronski; GipperGal; kstewskis


Over my pay grade. What's going on here?


18 posted on 06/16/2005 6:04:12 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: theDentist
Look, are you aware of the crimes of the Croatian nazis and some of their so-called clergy in WWII?? If not, you really need to look it up. Even Hitler was shocked at the Croatian nazi depravity.

If you do not know about Jasenovic, please do look it up.

It is shocking. I was in Korea and what I saw, I really hate to recall. But, what I have read about Jasenovic ranks right up there with ALL the other nazis camps. Not too many Americans even know of the horrors that took place there.

The holocast is not JUST rhetoric to the Serbian Christian victims of Jasenovic and their families ... IT IS REALITY. THEY CAN USE THAT WORD ALL THEY WANT!! THEY OWN THE WORD!!

Would you say it is "just a useful tool of rhetoric" to a Jew or a Gypsy when they also say they were victims of the Jasenovic part of the holocaust??? THEY OWN THE WORD 'HOLOCAUST' as well.

What word do you own??? What have you suffered at the hands of tyrants?

19 posted on 06/16/2005 6:08:57 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: Lion in Winter

Yes, I am and already was aware of it. Maybe you should focus this anger at Durbin.


20 posted on 06/16/2005 6:15:42 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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