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Experts Say Iraq Insurgency Has Reduced Terror Threat in West-(when Iraq is stable, they'll return)
VOANEWS.COM ^ | JUNE 15, 2005 | SABINA CASTELFRANCO

Posted on 06/16/2005 4:54:34 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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1 posted on 06/16/2005 4:54:34 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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"The focus is on Iraq. This has caused a diversion in terms of the emphasis that Islamic extremists attribute to targets."

And there we have what I have always said was the most important part of the war ... like moths to a flame. We fight there so we don't have to fight here.

2 posted on 06/16/2005 4:58:02 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: CHARLITE

One thing tha tthe critics of the war are correct about is that Iraq is providing a trainig nground for future Al Qaedas.

Afghanistan from 1979-90 is where Al Qaeda got there start.


It is possible that without the USSR invasion of Afghanistan, there would have been no Al Qaeda. the nyou can play all sorts of guessing games. No Jimmy Carter, no USSR invasion, No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter...No John Dean, no Watergate....so there its all your fauly John Dean


3 posted on 06/16/2005 4:58:51 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: CHARLITE

Terrorism is not a hobby.

There are a limited number of terrorists. Often, they are known to state security apparatus (as were many of the 9/11 hijackers, so what one does with the information matters a great deal).

Remember President Bush said "Bring it on." This is the outcome he was hoping for. Yes, Iraq is a dangerous place for people who thought they were signing up to be REMFs, but we have no choice but to turn the Army into an expeditionary force and for every infantryman to be a rifleman.


4 posted on 06/16/2005 4:59:17 PM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: SittinYonder
We fight there so we don't have to fight here.

Spot on. This aspect of the War is going about as well as possible.

5 posted on 06/16/2005 5:00:45 PM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: atlanta67

Quote:

One thing tha tthe critics of the war are correct about is that Iraq is providing a trainig nground for future Al Qaedas.

Me:

But we are also getting valuable combat/intelligence gathering experience as well.


6 posted on 06/16/2005 5:01:40 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: CHARLITE

Terrorism has been around for a long, long time. Terrorists have played havoc in North America before the United States was formed and terrorism will continue globally for the foreseeable future. What has changed with terrorism is the cellular, transferable and morpheable creature it operates in as an islamic army force structure and the sophisticated methodologies of attack now within islamic terrorists grasp, to include the real threat of WMD.

The only way to totally defeat its current, most destructive form is to wipe islam off the global map....and I don't give that option much chance of happening...yet.


7 posted on 06/16/2005 5:11:05 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: CHARLITE

Unless, of course, we kill off enough of the terrorists (and the leaders of the sponsoring states) to make them trivial. Oh, but what am I thinking - Western liberal utopian loser societies aren't allowed to do that!


8 posted on 06/16/2005 5:11:54 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: atlanta67
It is possible that without the USSR invasion of Afghanistan, there would have been no Al Qaeda.

Maybe not in name, but the reason the Soviets wanted to dominate Afghanistan was to control their Muslim republics, which already seethed with that jihadi sentiment. That goes waaaay back. In the Middle East, the Muslim Brotherhood has been a problem since the 40s. The names are changing (Muslim Brotherhood, Al Aqsa Martyrs, Hezbollah, Allah's Arseholes, you name it) but the jihadi fascist spirit is the same.

9 posted on 06/16/2005 5:12:21 PM PDT by kezekiel
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To: Haru Hara Haruko
This aspect of the War is going about as well as possible.

I'd say the whole thing is going about as well as possible, excepting the useful idiots at home. Dick Durbin, ACLU et al. are making the situation worse. But as far as a war goes, this one has been a pretty spectacular success.

10 posted on 06/16/2005 5:21:22 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: CHARLITE
Iraq is providing a training ground for future Al Qaida..

If there was no war in Iraq there would be training grounds in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kashmir, Balkans, Indonesia and the Philippines. So blaming the rise in terrorists on the Iraq war don't cut it.
11 posted on 06/16/2005 5:28:37 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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US REDNECK SPECIAL FORCES (USRSF)

The Pentagon announced today the formation of a new 500 man elite fighting unit called the US REDNECK SPECIAL FORCES (USRSF).

These North Carolina, South Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia,Mississippi, Missouri, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Texas and Tennessee boys will be dropped into Iraq and have been given the following facts about the Terrorists:

1. The season opened today.
2. There is no limit.
3. They taste just like chicken.
4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus.
5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the death of Dale Earnhart.

This mess in Iraq should be over IN A WEEK!!


12 posted on 06/16/2005 5:33:40 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: CHARLITE; Fred Nerks; USF; jan in Colorado; ariamne
Great post.

But what if Churchill and Roosevelt said (because of the many citizens of German and Japanese ancestry in the U.S. and U.K.) we are not at war with Germany or Japan. We are war with aeroplanes and their pilots.

Is that not a lie?

But our country is lying. Our men and women are dying...for a lie.

I think the Truth will set us free!

13 posted on 06/16/2005 5:40:03 PM PDT by Dark Skies (Islam is the wolf at the door. Shall we pet it...or kill it?)
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For the terrorists, Iraq is like flypaper... our troops are killing the swine there so we dont have to face them all at home.

Once Iraq is stabilized, I like to see it used as a spring board to roll back the tide of islamic oppression... keeping the pressure on them...

14 posted on 06/16/2005 5:50:40 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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Germany and Japan are nations. Islam is a religion. You can declare war on a country, but...


15 posted on 06/16/2005 5:50:47 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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Islam is a religion. You can declare war on a country, but...

Correct. Islam must be exposed as the evil and fraud that it is, and then destroyed!

16 posted on 06/16/2005 5:55:49 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (Never Forget! Never Retreat! Never Give Up!)
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To: jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks; USF
Islam is a religion. You can declare war on a country, but...

There you go again, Freddie, gettin to the ole point.

Nasty ain't it...changes the paradigm.

But, O'course, you hit the nail on the head.

It will kill us unless we stop it...

and there is only one way to stop it...

Islam gotta die!

17 posted on 06/16/2005 6:05:15 PM PDT by Dark Skies (Islam is the wolf at the door. Shall we pet it...or kill it?)
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To: Dark Skies

"Islam gotta die!"

Or go back where it came from. Desert nomads. When the West drilled the oil fields, we cast pearls before swine.


Shape of things to come in Iraq (and the world over)

• The elections are held in Iraq
• Sunni clerics denounce elections
• Voters are killed on election day in Terror attacks
• But election results are announced
• Sunni turnout is less than 20%
• Sunni clerics reject results
• Shia dominated govt is formed
• Sunnis call for US troops to leave
• New Shia dominated govt calls for phased pullout of US forces
• US forces begin a phased pullout
• They re-locate outside the cities in isolated fortified camps
• Terrorists blow off Iraqi parliament, Presidential palace Prime Minister’s residence
• Terrorists assassinate Ministers, Parliamentarians
• A full scale civil war starts between the Sunni dominated insurgents and the new Shia and Kurd Iraqi military
• Iran sends in insurgents to back Shias
• Saudis, Syrians, Egyptians, Kuwaitis, Palestinians send in insurgents to back Sunnis
• Saudis and Kuwaitis call for US action to stop Iran from intensifying the Iraqi civil war
• US seizes the opportunity and bombs Iranian nuke facilities
• Iran tries to crash missiles into Israel and Europe
• Internal rebellion breaks out in Iran
• US special forces start operating inside Iran to topple Mullah regime
• Iranian/Hezbollah forces stage terrorist attacks in Israel and in the West
• US launches an air blitz of Iran followed by a land invasion and sets up a new regime
• The Shah of Iran returns to Iran as a private citizen
• Shia-Hezbollah led terror attacks across the West and Israel intensify
• Israel invades Lebanon to wipe out the Hezbollah threat
• Egypt/Syria threaten Israel with serious consequences.
• Terrorist attacks originating from Gaza intensify in Israel
• Israel warns Syria with military action
• Spectacular mega terror attack in Israel
• Israel declares Syria to be culpable and launches a swift land and air assault on Syria
• Syria appeals for Arab military action to save itself
• Egypt, Jordan and Saudis start military action against Israel
• Israel overruns Jordan to join up with US forces stationed in Iraq
• Israel occupies Damascus
• US forces enter Syria from Syrian-Iraqi border in the North, join up with Israeli military
• After the conquest of Syria, Israel turns on Egypt, annexes Sinai, crosses Suez Canal and threatens Cairo
• Mecca, Medina, Mena, Jiddah taken off the map thru IAF (Israel Air Force) nuke strikes
• Upheaval in the entire Arab world
• Western diplomats and businessmen attacked, kidnapped, beheaded
• Anti-American riots in Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia.
• Musharraf and Yudhyono regimes under tremendous pressure to give up pro-US stance
• Musharraf assassinated by pro-Jihadi elements in Army due to his association with the US. The Jihadis last straw being his helping the Americans in finding Iran's nuke sites as a trade off for letting AQ Khan off the hook. But Mushy's gamble does not pay off, as he loses his job and life.
• Jihadi regime in Pakistan ups hostility with India
• Jihadis succeed in smuggling nuclear devices in the US and exploding them simultaneously
• US army takes over US administration, suspends constitution
• US military regime blockades the UN and declares it persona non-grata
• US enters into emergency war council with Russia and Britain
• The triple alliance starts nuclear bombing military targets across the Islamic world
• Pakistani nukes taken out in first strike
• Pakistan explodes some nuke devices on India
• Indian retaliation wipes off Pakistan off the map – death toll in South Asia is over half a billion
• Widespread Hindu-Muslim riots in India on the lines of the Gujarat riots of 2002. Muslim population decimated, Hindus and Christians also suffer heavy death toll.
• Nuclear campaign launched by the triple alliance intensifies as many cities in the Islamic world are taken off the map to wipe off the air forces.
• Seaports in the Islamic world crippled to decapitate the navies
• Radiation causes second wave of deaths. The toll in secondary deaths more than three billion
• More than half of the fatalities are Muslims.
• Almost the entire population in the Muslim world is decimated.
• China joins war against Islam, wipes off Muslim (Ughir) population in Eastern Turkestan
• Muslims in Europe launch a wave of terror attacks in European capitals
• Conditions in Europe very disturbed in a civil war like situation
• Right wing coups in France, Germany, Spain, Netherlands, Denmark. The new regimes join the triple alliance
• Widespread anti-Muslim riots in Europe aided by the militaries of those countries and NATO forces
• Domestic military action against Muslims in Europe intensifies as European militaries do combing operations to flush out Muslims
• The post-war Muslim population worldwide now accounts for only one percent of the global population concentrated mostly in Europe
• Military action ends, US, Britain and Russia announce reconstruction plan for the world
• Islam outlawed across the globe
• Residual Muslims worldwide embrace Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism. Judaism
• Humanity enters post-Islamic phase.
This write-up has been compiled based on analysis by Seymour Hersh and information at the following sites; Stratfor.org, Rand.org, Military.com





18 posted on 06/16/2005 6:10:49 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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I like to see it used as a spring board to roll back the tide of islamic oppression... keeping the pressure on them...

Hey, brother...you have lived among the enemy...I am just guessing.

I hope that this evil can be rolled back.

Can Satan be rolled back?

My best to you and your family! "Oh, to be in England!"

19 posted on 06/16/2005 6:14:50 PM PDT by Dark Skies (Islam is the wolf at the door. Shall we pet it...or kill it?)
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"Oh, to be in England!"

Good heavens no! Too many mooselimbs there. I'm going to Tasmania! No one can find you there...


20 posted on 06/16/2005 6:17:13 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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