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To: clamper1797

This might fit in here with Mr.Peters piece.
This is a post I made on one of the Durbin threads.
Let me know what you think.


I was thinking about this today.
There were TWO lessons to be learned from the Vietnam war.
One, we learned that to be half hearted in the defense of
our armed forces could lead to failure in spite of their
skill and sacrifice, that a timetable only enabled the
enemy, that withdrawing support for an ally only means
their defeat when up against an enemy supported by allies
at a cost of millions of lives.

So we have done our best to support our troops and leaders
to make that support vocal so that they know they have our support while they are engaged and after. We have taken a
long term view with victory as our goal, nothing less. We have refused to cast our allies to the jaws of the terror
sharks. And finally we have confronted and continue to confront those who learned the second lesson of Vietnam.

The second lesson is the one the liberal/democrat/socialists
learned, that misrepresentation of the situation can cause
support for the troops to wain, that gullible young minds
can be led to turn on their own nation, that by burrowing
deep within our own government these same people can multiply the effect of their disruption and can bring about
the further loss of respect for our nation around the world.
That by their constant drumbeat of criticism, and opposition
they can wear out the patience of the people in support of
their OWN fellow citizen soldiers.

Now we hear the canard of a "timetable for withdrawal", an
"exit strategy" either one the death knell of defeat and
further loss of life.
The same people who did their best to cause the fall
of South Vietnam and the resultant slaughter in Cambodia,
now want to apply the winning tactics they used then, today.
One only needs pay attention to the play book, and the roster to see that what I am saying is true.

We as a nation cannot afford in this perelous time to suffer
the same strangling, binding, loss of will as we suffered in
the years after Vietnam. The stakes are too high now, being
the very survival of our nation as a people.
Consider the divisiveness of "Diversity" no longer are we united by a common language, our children are no longer taught to consider themselves "Americans" but as bits of
co-equal gender and ethnic subsets.
When one considers the monolithic mindset of Islam, what
we must do to view ourselves as a united body to stand against their naked attempt at world domination is perhaps
not possible.
It certainly isn't possible with the internal opposition we
face at home.

Sorry got carried away, but the lessons of Vietnam were viewed and acted upon in such different ways, looking back
we should be able to learn, and I think WE have, that the
price of vacillation, and cowardice is too costly to pay.
A price beyond mere lives, it took almost thirty years for
this nation to be in a position to project power internationally after the political debacle of Vietnam.
Can we afford to be in a position, say after a failed
timetable, and the fall of new democratic arab states,
where we are NOT able to project power around the world
FOR THE NEXT THIRTY YEARS.

Think of the enemies we face even now, China is building
a military, one which due to the nature of their birth
doctrine, will be massively provided with male soldiers,
and the finest technology they can pirate or develope.

Russia....may be our friend or ally but the spector of
communism is far from dead even there.

Islam, is our greatest threat, our whole nation is already
seeing the efforts they produce to turn our institutions
to the profit of their "religion". They say the "fanatics"
only number a mear percent or so of their number but that is STILL a million or more zealots who whole heartedly wish
to die destroying us.

Can we allow those same people who pulled the props out from
under us in Vietnam, the same ones who said we should "work" with the communists, that they were no threat to us, that our OWN government was the problem, that WE were the cause of our defeat, to again put us in the position that we should FEAR OUR OWN GOVERNMENT, that
self doubt and national self loathing should tie our hands
when we are faced with such a future?





16 posted on 06/16/2005 5:35:38 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
IMO We are at a crossroads. In one direction lies the end of our republic. That appears to be the easy path as it has been made easy by those who hate our nation and who had the practice of deriding our nation during Vietnam.

They learned many lessons during that time. How to lie, what to say as a lie and who to tell the lie to. They also learned how best to disseminate their lies, by controlling the press and the academic bodies.

They prey on the gullible, the naive, the class envious, the lazy, and the rebellious.

The other path can only be traveled by returning to the concept of the republic our forefathers envisioned, created, and gave us stewardship over. This path is much much harder to travel as it will require a resolve that I doubt we as a people have. To return to what our forefathers intended would require that we return to the moral, philosophical, and yes even religious values that our forefathers held. It also means that we would have to take back our republic from those who wish to twist it into their own vision. This in itself could rip the country apart. It is my belief that we are now in the beginning stages of a cold civil war. I just hope it doesn't turn into a hot one ... but I don't hold much hope for that. I truly fear for our republic ... but I know I would fight to the death those who would seek to destroy it. I don't wish to consider ever single liberal an enemy ... but they aren't making it easy

20 posted on 06/16/2005 6:14:53 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Advertisments contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper)
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To: tet68

I think that's an excellent comment, TET68! A worthy column contribution of your own!


33 posted on 06/17/2005 12:27:45 AM PDT by katman (Liberty. Discovery. Humanity. Victory!)
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