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Legal woes may shut down Kansas schools
Bakersfield Californian ^
| 6/16/05
| John Hanna - AP
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:04:20 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Michele Henry, a Topeka mother of two daughters, ages 7 and 9, said legislators need to provide enough money for schools.
"Other people are not allowed not to do their jobs," said Henry, who is the president of the parent-teacher organization at her daughters' school. "Their job is to fund education programs for our children."
To: NormsRevenge
The high court said that the plan was inadequate and that the increase for the next school year must be $285 million, or 10 percent.
The court also said it could order much larger spending increases in the future. ----
who needs state legislatures when you have courts that are more than happy to run things.
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:06:27 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
To: NormsRevenge
One solution would be to have the judge incarcerated and ransomed for the required funds.
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:06:50 AM PDT
by
bert
(Rename Times Square......... Rudy Square. Just in.... rename the Washington Post March??)
To: NormsRevenge
that the increase for the next school year must be $285 million,Okay, so that means the legislature needs to bill each judge $40,715,000. If they want it spent, they can pay for it.
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:08:25 AM PDT
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
To: NormsRevenge
The time is coming when the black robed tyrants need to be stopped. How about defunding the state court until it recognizes the separation of powers. (That is an alternative to simply having the state police drag them out of the court.)
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:09:50 AM PDT
by
Truth29
To: NormsRevenge
This defiance is way overdue.
The precedent, school bussing, set the stage for any kind of judicial power grab.
Having the court decide matters of taxation, funding and amounts, specially in such vague terms as "adequately", is unacceptable .
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:10:14 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
To: NormsRevenge
"Other people are not allowed not to do their jobs," said Henry, who is the president of the parent-teacher organization at her daughters' school. "Their job is to fund education programs for our children."I'm sure Henry would be happy to double her tax payments to pay for this. Teachers should be able to make $150,000 a year if they can get away with it. /sarcasm
Seriously, I hope the legislature stands up to the nitwit judge.
To: NormsRevenge
Some Republicans who control the Legislature want to defy the court, arguing it cannot tell them exactly what to spend on anything. Hang on to your seats. Now we know what were gonna hear about on C-SPAM for the rest of the year.
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:11:43 AM PDT
by
Calusa
(Say Nick, was ya ever stung by a dead bee?)
To: Publius6961
They won't defy the order. While this is a Republican state, only a little more than half the elected Republicans have any backbone. The other half are either Democrats with R's by their name or they live in fear of the state liberal media. The media says "jump," they say "how high." What they get in return is an endorsement in their primary races. Why that's enough for them I do not know.
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:15:11 AM PDT
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
To: NormsRevenge
Note to Michele, KS lawmakers have funded "Edukation" for years with publik skool enrollment falling in the face of private/home schooling/religious schools, picking up many students and many more parents interested in real educations for their children w/o social engineering; sex promos presented by homosexual groups; and socialists drying up every ounce of taxpayer dollar around - DEAL WITH IT!
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:15:53 AM PDT
by
zerosix
To: NormsRevenge
Their tough talk has educators and others worried the court will order schools to remain closed until legislators comply. That would garner widespread support of impeachment in a heartbeat.
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:21:22 AM PDT
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: NormsRevenge
"They might not reopen in the fall because of a political and legal battle over education funding. "
The best thing that could happen for kids in Kansas. refund property taxes and other funds to parents and let them send their kids to private schools.
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:27:54 AM PDT
by
monday
To: NormsRevenge
Their tough talk has educators and others worried the court will order schools to remain closed until legislators comply.
If the do that, the governor should just order everyone to school anyway. If teachers or administration defy that, fire them.
To: microgood
If not enough is being spent on schools, the VOTERS need to say so and demand a change in leadership (i.e. throw the bums out). Obviously it is not pressing enough for voters to lead a full revolt. A COURT should not be imposing a certain level of spending, let the voters decide what is best.
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posted on
06/16/2005 11:53:55 AM PDT
by
Pop Fly
To: NormsRevenge
If the Kansas public schools shut down, the real winners will be the kids and the taxpayers.
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posted on
06/16/2005 12:04:46 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
To: NormsRevenge
Courts now ordering spending again in Kansas, WTF?
Isn't there a legislature for such considerations?
Beam me up
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posted on
06/16/2005 12:06:15 PM PDT
by
Mister Baredog
((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
To: cavtrooper21
Cav,
Light up your local rep and senator! Otherwise it's BOHICA for Kansans.
You'd also better pray that they don't look to Texas for a model of education funding.
Semper Fi
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posted on
06/16/2005 12:58:10 PM PDT
by
dd5339
(A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
To: <1/1,000,000th%
Having the court decide matters of taxation, funding and amounts, specially in such vague terms as "adequately", is unacceptable . Way too late, The court taxed the state a long time ago, to fund the schools in Kansas City, the legislature just rolled over and paid it.
I refuse to be optimistic about any legislature, State or Federal, ever standing up to the courts, mainly because I think they agree with what the courts are doing, there is no other explanation that makes any sense.
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posted on
06/16/2005 1:57:15 PM PDT
by
itsahoot
(If Judge Greer can run America then I guess just about anyone with a spine could do the same.)
To: microgood
If the do that, the governor should just order everyone to school anyway. If teachers or administration defy that, fire them.How do you fire a taxpayer?
Can I volunteer?
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posted on
06/16/2005 2:45:13 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
To: Publius6961
How do you fire a taxpayer?
Actually I meant that if the governor defied the school closure, and the teachers balked, fire them. Sorry to get your hopes up.
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