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To: Jibaholic; Xenalyte
So because some marriages are unhappy or even abusive we should just throw out the concept of marriage vows? Are we Christian conservatives or are we liberal feminists?

Really. You do not know what goes on behind closed doors. I've seen too much in my life. Not only my uber-religious Catholic aunt, but evangelicals have told me that my marriage was broken in the eyes of God. In fact, my aunt told me that what my ex did to me, invalidated the marriage not only in the Church, but also the state.

I would think both Zenalyte and I are conservative, but we do recognize when a marriage is no longer a marriage. Certain behaviors and actions invalidate a marriage. In Terri's case, she started thinking about getting a divorce, because for some reason her marriage was iretrievably broken. I know how families like hers feel about divorce, because I grew up in one. The deal breaker is adultery and physical abuse of the other spouse/children.

Bottom line: if there are no machines keeping a person alive, they are not brain dead. So the only solution is to give that person a fatal injection, or the more merciful solution of starvation and dehydration. /sarcasm

Food, medicine, and water, do not make a "dead" person stay alive.

Imo, you are a troll and an idiot.

112 posted on 06/16/2005 12:01:13 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I grew up in a divorced family also. Divorce is a horrible thing. But only two people know what happened between Terri and Micheal. Once we invited judges to come into our private lives and make decisions of life and death for us, we won't easily get them out again.

I've been consistently asking the question on this thread if my wife could make that decision for me. And I've been consistently told that she can only if we have made two covenants: one for marriage, another for a living will. Otherwise it becomes the government's business and not my ours. That is wrong.

116 posted on 06/16/2005 12:10:42 PM PDT by Jibaholic (The facts of life are conservative - Margaret Thatcher)
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