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Calif. scientists plan to kill barred owls (to save spotted owls)
Monterey Herald ^ | 6/15/05 | Jeff Barnard - AP

Posted on 06/15/2005 7:17:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

ARCATA, Calif. - Federal scientists are planning to shoot a small number of barred owls they say are crowding out the threatened spotted owl in northern California - an experiment that could lead to killing thousands of the larger owls on the West Coast.

Scientists said the "removal" experiment would be the best way to quickly determine whether barred owls are pushing spotted owls toward extinction. If successful, officials would then consider expanding the program.

"This experiment is a small step," said Brian Woodbridge, a biologist for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service office in Yreka, Calif.

The final plan was being discussed at a meeting of spotted owl experts Wednesday at Humboldt State University in Arcata, he said. The experiment could start as early as next week.

Scientists said the northern spotted owls, which became a symbol of environmentalists' efforts to preserve the old-growth forests on the West Coast, are competing with the more common barred owls for nesting places and food. The barred owls, which have migrated to west from the Great Plains, also kill the spotted owls.

There are no hard numbers on how many spotted owls or barred owls are in the West, but some estimates put spotted owls at about 8,000 pairs. Barred owls appear to greatly outnumber spotted owls in Washington, and are about even in Oregon, according to some estimates.

The experiment site, in the southern Cascade Range, is bordered on three sides by mountains and contains only eight to 11 barred owls and 32 spotted owls, Woodbridge said. Barred owls have already displaced two spotted owl pairs and are crowding a third in the area.

The California Academy of Sciences, which has agreed to take part in the experiment, already has permits from the Fish and Wildlife Service and the California Department of Fish and Game to shoot up to 20 barred owls for museum studies, meaning the experiment does not require a lengthy environmental impact statement.

Some experts, however, say even if the experiment is successful, it will be hard to stop the migration of the barred owls.

"Assuming you find removal is working - spotted owls move back into their territories - are you prepared to do that for the next 10,000 years? Because as soon as you stop you're right back where you started," said Eric Forsman, a spotted owl biologist for the U.S. Forest Service.

The invasion also could have far-reaching ramifications for timberland owners, who log under habitat protection plans to maintain spotted owls. Some of those plans would allow more logging if spotted owls disappear; others could allow less.

"This is creating a lot of anxiety for us," said Lowell Diller, a biologist for Green Diamond Resources Co., which owns 450,000 acres of timber east of Redwood National Park in Northern California.

Susan Ash, conservation director for the Audubon Society of Portland, whose lawsuit resulted in spotted owl protections, said her group supports research, but has concerns about killing barred owls.

"I don't feel we should just jump into something without getting a sense of the feelings of all the interest groups," she said.

ON THE NET

California Academy of Sciences: http://www.calacademy.org/

U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service: http://www.fws.gov/

National Audubon Society: http://www.audubon.org/


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: barred; california; kill; owls; plan; scientists; spotted
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1 posted on 06/15/2005 7:17:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: forester; Carry_Okie

fyi


2 posted on 06/15/2005 7:17:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I guess some animals are more equal than others.


3 posted on 06/15/2005 7:19:29 PM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: NormsRevenge

These people really have to get a life?????


4 posted on 06/15/2005 7:19:53 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: NormsRevenge

Why do they feel they have to play God. Let God sort the species out.


5 posted on 06/15/2005 7:22:47 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: NormsRevenge

A graphic illustration on how ecofreaks have made the once proud USFS the enemy of all creatures, not just people.


6 posted on 06/15/2005 7:22:51 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: NormsRevenge

Good thinkin'!  I've noticed a few too many of those pesky Bald Eagles and blame them for fewer bunnies than I'd like to see.  I don't think anybody would mind me "culling the herd" so to speak.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

7 posted on 06/15/2005 7:25:15 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: NormsRevenge

What happened to natural selection, survival of the fittest, the supremacy of nature, etc.????

I guess it all depends on which animal is cuter.


8 posted on 06/15/2005 7:25:31 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: NormsRevenge

And what do they shoot when the barred owls become endangered?


9 posted on 06/15/2005 7:25:39 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: LauraJean

Great extract from the Farm LJ...!


10 posted on 06/15/2005 7:26:22 PM PDT by GhostSoldier
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To: NormsRevenge; HKMk23
Our grubamint evolutionists seem to hate natural selection when it comes to maintaining their gravy train.

Who'da thunk it?

11 posted on 06/15/2005 7:27:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (And the Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The left at its finest, they shall now assume the role of a God.

I guess a committee decides who lives and who dies... Wait till they get their hands on some real power, not just the power to shoot a few birds.

Shooting those birds, incidentally, would get the average man incarcerated for a decade, but seeing as a committee of communist Godmen decided it was "right", they will be hailed as environmental Saviour's.

They are just pigs.
12 posted on 06/15/2005 7:28:15 PM PDT by mmercier (the bull god)
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To: GhostSoldier

Here's one cut in the budget I would support.


13 posted on 06/15/2005 7:28:59 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: PzLdr

"And what do they shoot when the barred owls become endangered?"

The over population of spotted owls that they created!


14 posted on 06/15/2005 7:28:59 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: NormsRevenge

Scientists said the [Republicans], which became a symbol of [corporations' efforts to preserve the capitalist economy in the US], are competing with the more common [Democrats] for [housing] and food. The [Republicans], which have migrated to the west from the [Deep South], also [defeat the Democrats in fair elections].


15 posted on 06/15/2005 7:30:25 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: NormsRevenge
Kill all the people on the West Coast so nobody can see if the owls are extinct or not.

Makes about as much sense to me.

And what if some trigger-happy federal scientist shoots a few spotted owls by mistake?

And where is PETA in this mix?

16 posted on 06/15/2005 7:31:29 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: dalereed
If Spotted Owls can only live in old growth forests, where did they live when all the forests were new? [This is the ornithological version of "when does the all important loss column" become all important].
17 posted on 06/15/2005 7:33:22 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: dalereed
Scientists said the "removal" experiment would be the best way to quickly determine whether barred owls are pushing spotted owls toward extinction.

Stoooopid! Put some spots on barred owls - problem solved.

18 posted on 06/15/2005 7:34:35 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: LauraJean

Dang, first thing that came to mind and you beat me to it.


19 posted on 06/15/2005 7:34:43 PM PDT by SoDak (Live on location in Texas)
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To: NormsRevenge

I wonder if this will happen to Conservatives...once Liberals become endangered?


20 posted on 06/15/2005 7:35:06 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary Clinton makes me sick as a dog passing peach pits.....)
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