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China trying to turn Australia into 'colony': defector [China imperialism alert!]
AFP ^ | 2005 Jun 15

Posted on 06/15/2005 7:29:55 AM PDT by Wiz

SYDNEY (AFP) - China is using a vast network of spies in an attempt to turn Australia into a "political colony," a defector said, as it was revealed Beijing officials had been allowed to interrogate Chinese held in Australian detention centres.

Former Beijing University professor Yuan Hongbing, the fourth Chinese defector to surface in Australia in the past month, supported charges by a rebel Chinese diplomat that Beijing had an extensive network of agents in the country.

The agents are targeting Chinese dissidents and are also being used to influence political thought "to turn Australia into a political colony of China," Yuan told ABC radio.

"Political colony means the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) will use their ideology to influence Australia's politics and gradually to turn Australia to betray its fundamental principles of freedom and democracy," Yuan said through an interpretde.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: australia; china; communism; democracy
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To: Paul Ross

Spot on target...fire for effect!


141 posted on 06/21/2005 1:01:02 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Just to set it straight, I am agreeing with you here.


142 posted on 06/21/2005 1:02:01 PM PDT by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: auggy
...except that 80 million of us are still armed, owning approximately 500 million weapons and several billion rounds of ammunition.

hehehehe.

143 posted on 06/21/2005 1:02:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: conserv13

Heard of something called Imperial China?


144 posted on 06/21/2005 1:02:59 PM PDT by anticommunist8
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To: Reagan Disciple

Understood...just punctuating that agreement. Sorry if it came acrss wrong.


145 posted on 06/21/2005 1:03:14 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: headsonpikes

I was about to say that China has already colonized Canada.


146 posted on 06/21/2005 1:03:22 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: Reagan Disciple
Unless one sees the Chairman presiding over labor camps then China cannot be communist.

Unfortunately, far too many apologists who wish to ignore reality ignore their actual Constitution and legal system...and both the reality, scope, and extremeness of the Chinese Laogai political camps, and so they DON'T "See the Chairman" presiding...as he in fact is....

147 posted on 06/21/2005 1:04:26 PM PDT by Paul Ross (George Patton: "I hate to have to fight for the same ground twice.")
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To: anticommunist8
I can't. The term National Socialism applies strictly to the racist variant of Fascism created by Hitler.

Actually, if you read a little more closely, you'll see that the original poster said "nationalist socialist"... which is an apt description (socialism combined with extreme nationalism). If the original poster mistyped, it was an intriguing mistype.

148 posted on 06/21/2005 1:07:12 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: Paul Ross

Exactly. Just because the power is in the hands a few and not a Chairman anymore then it must be that communism is dead.

N. Korea represents the old form, China the new. But when Walmart and Intel are pumping cash into the country, many ask how can they be communist? How? By lining up people on the knees and shooting them in the back of the head simply because they want to exercise free speech or practice a form of religion.

So many have forgotten Stalin and Mao. So should we be suprised that they can't recognize them now? On main street maybe but I would think in this forum people would be better informed.


149 posted on 06/21/2005 1:14:10 PM PDT by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Paul Ross

That sounds like something Hillary would write :)


150 posted on 06/21/2005 1:17:30 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: conserv13
No, I was just saying that China is not a communist country anymore. It also has not been imperialist, historically, compared to its neighbors.

Neighbors such as India? Thailand? Burma? Vietnam? Laos? Cambodia? Mynmar? The Phillipines?

151 posted on 06/21/2005 1:19:23 PM PDT by Paul Ross (George Patton: "I hate to have to fight for the same ground twice.")
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To: Reagan Disciple
How? By lining up people on the knees and shooting them in the back of the head simply because they want to exercise free speech or practice a form of religion.

I agree with you there. So if Microsoft and Wal*Mart support this, and we (Americans) support Microsoft and Wal*Mart, aren't we accessories?

152 posted on 06/21/2005 1:20:21 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: Paul Ross

Japan, Russia.


153 posted on 06/21/2005 1:20:53 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: conserv13

Absolutely.

With Chinese products so engrained in our marketplace and with the Chinese gov't holding a nice chunk of our treasuries and the Clinton administration giving access to supercomputers and W-88 technology, if it were to come down to a showdown with them we would have only ourselves to blame.

Chamberlain redux.


154 posted on 06/21/2005 1:25:33 PM PDT by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Reagan Disciple

You are right, it is scary how much of our debt the Chinese own.


155 posted on 06/21/2005 1:28:09 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: conserv13

My fear is not so much a military conflict since I believe that if they did make a move on Taiwan they would have to deal with the 3rd and 7th Fleets which would be too much for them, but if they wanted to cripple us they simply need to start dumping our debt.

True the fall in the dollar would not help their FX reserves with the current peg but if they are willing to go that far why should they care?

If and when the do decouple from the USD, I would take that a sign that they are ready to do something in the global arena. Right now if they keep growing 6-8% per year and they get sweetheart deals from Putin for oil, they can handle a depressed dollar. The FX reserves they are building will more than compensate.


156 posted on 06/21/2005 1:38:15 PM PDT by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I was about to say that China has already colonized Canada.

And some great colonial restaurants they've been opening!

Albeit, mostly the Colony of Hong Kong style. ;^)

157 posted on 06/21/2005 1:59:43 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: blackie; Terriergal; Wiz

New Zealand's furthest right Party [ACT], has Kenneth Wang as it's newest Member of Parliament. The Chinese make quite a bit of hype out of that on their home ground, but it's not something a lot of Kiwis are aware of.


158 posted on 06/21/2005 3:02:00 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: headsonpikes

I have to tell you my Waterloo Chinese restaurant story sometime. Y'all do have some outstanding Indian eateries.


159 posted on 06/21/2005 3:21:43 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

ping


160 posted on 06/21/2005 3:52:36 PM PDT by Wiz
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