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State Budget Battle Fizzles (Democratic Girly-Men Throw In The Towel Alert)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 06/15/05 | Evan Halper

Posted on 06/15/2005 4:11:24 AM PDT by goldstategop

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To: stopem

I just saw what you wrote in Post 34. I appreciate your change of heart.


41 posted on 06/15/2005 2:44:24 PM PDT by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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To: fhlh

No, I'm willing to bet that no state is free of that burden, but California bears a higher burden than other states such as Ohio where I live.


42 posted on 06/15/2005 4:10:02 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: stopem
That post of yours is a crock.

Do you have about a third of all your students getting public education at $7000 a pop being ILLEGALS? I thought not. We have a 12 billion dollar bill from illegals in this state that you can't relate to.

The teacher's UNION are the problem. They are a union into growing their own numbers, pay and influence, they have nothing to do with education at this point IMO.

You want fairness, I have a simple plan.

All government employees, including teachers should be paid "no more" for salary, benefits or pensions than what is found in the private sector.

1.25% is a lot of money, and we have lots of bonds that stupid Californians voted for because people added "for the children" in the measure. But nothing will ever be enough as long as the public has anymore money left.

Most people move every 5 years in this state and most are not in their same homes of the 70s with lower taxes based on lower purchase prices.

Your out of your mind regarding your prop13 view because:
You'd get all the older people kicked out of their homes.
Only 17% of this state could afford the homes they live in right now. That should tell you something.

When a person in the bought their homes for $50,000 the average wage might have been $18,000 a year and they are going to retire with less money in the bank than those earning big bucks later.

In the 80s, the same homes rose to $155,000 on salaries of maybe $35,000 on average.

In the 90s, the same home might have gotten up to $275,000, with people earning an average wage of $45,000.

Now homes are 700k with an average family wage of maybe 60k in the state.

All people with homes in California bought in when they were mostly in their own financial primes and you can't compare the wages of the 70s to the wages of the 00s.

The person with the home in the 70's has a tax bill of around $1000, the 80's $2,000, the 90's $3,500 and in the 00's it's about $7,000.

You can't expect those that bought in with a $18000 a year salary as a family in their prime (now maybe retired) to agree with dropping prop 13 so they could spend most of their SS on property tax. That is stupid and the state should live on a minimum, not be flooded in money for politicians to spend.
43 posted on 06/15/2005 4:27:14 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Utilizer

I can't argue the point that homeschooling is best. We homeschooled our 4 children for a time, our children are all grown now.

I misunderstood the situation that exists in CA and I have mentioned that in another post.


44 posted on 06/15/2005 6:11:13 PM PDT by stopem
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To: stopem
Right, I saw that and appreciate your open-mindedness. Please do not misconstrue anything that I said as a personal attack. It is simply that over the years you have not been the first to comment upon the appalling state that the educational system in California has distorted itself into -and I have personal knowledge of incidents that you simply would not believe were I to burden you with their retelling.

The nice thing about FR is the feedback from so many others that have at least one bit of information that contributes to the dialog, and I am not ashamed to say that I Myself have been taken to task for erroneous comments at one time or another. I never get insulted -barring the most blatant of trolls posting at times- when that happens, because I am not fool enough to think that I know everything. We never stop learning, and if we are fortunate we will continue to do so to our final moments.

Be well, and all the best to you and yours.

45 posted on 06/16/2005 10:50:48 AM PDT by Utilizer (WinDoze "XXX"ES. Adult-rated, ready 4 the desktop! It STILL sucks -but you need us to tell you that?)
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