[bayourod]

It was a success from the standpoint that it significantly reduced border jumpers in that area. But the estimated number that still got through, an estimated 30,000 to 40,000 per year, (454 to 606 per mile), if extrapolated nationwide would still allow over forty million per year to jump the border.

I can't vouch for the accuracy of my numbers. My sources are partially from newspapers and some of those are estimates, such as number of border jumpers not caught. But even if they are off by half, the end conclusion has to be the same.

Operation Gatekeep has been in effect since 1994. Has it reduced the number of illegals in San Diego?

Thanks for taking the time to look at Operation Gatekeeper instead of simply calling me a traitor for raising the point. I would like to have your source to add to my file. Thank you.

[Eagle of Liberty]

I can't vouch for the accuracy of my numbers.

No kidding. I sure would like to read your sources for your numbers and your estimates. I believe that you are using every mile of our border, whether it be land or sea entry, in your estimates. If I take 30,000 people/66 miles, I get 454 per mile. BUT, extrapolating that over our LAND border, about 6000 miles (not counting Alaska-Canada border), I get about 2.8 million people. WAY less than 40 million. Still not good, but try to be closer.

As far as Operation Gatekeeper and its successes, I will read any link that you have because I severly doubt ANY data publicized from the Clinton Administration. Just look here for a GLARING example:

1997 US Annual Report

Here is the example:

For fiscal years 1991 and beyond, the excess of Social Security taxes over outlays for Social Security is excluded by law from the deficit calculation. This amount was $52 billion in 1996 and $68 billion in 1997. The Clinton Administration, however, has elected to include the Social Security Trust Fund in the deficit calculation, which has the effect of reducing the reported deficit. Exclusion of the Trust Fund surpluses would increase the reported deficits to $159 billion in 1996 and $91 billion in 1997.

[raybbr]

But the estimated number that still got through, an estimated 30,000 to 40,000 per year, (454 to 606 per mile), if extrapolated nationwide would still allow over forty million per year to jump the border.

Never pass up a chance to hyperbolize when you can simply use common sense.

My sources were:

For the Feinstein quote.

The chart comes from here: Operation Gatekeeper: An Investigation Into Allegations of Fraud and Misconduct (July, 1998)

Which refuted the claims of fraud and inflated apprehension rates.

[raybbr]

Thanks for taking the time to look at Operation Gatekeeper instead of simply calling me a traitor for raising the point. I would like to have your source to add to my file. Thank you.

I don't think you are a traitor. Simply someone who has a stake in propagating illegals. For whatever reason you have it's anethema to good citizenship.

By the way, I will keep pointing out your "Lies of the day" when I come across them.