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To: faq
...I wanted it balanced out so those in favor of the act would not be afraid to post.

Don't post articles if you don't agree with them. If you agree, then don't be afraid to post your thoughts. If you're too chickenshiite to post against the tide, God help you...

Patriot Act implies that we should blindly follow the lead of our Politicians, as they suspend rights guaranteed by our constitution. There is no other reason for this 'Patriot Act", but to suspend rights.

I wore a uniform, and fought in a war, for those rights. Keep your, and your politicians, fingers off of them...

I keep and bear arms, too... and would not be afraid to defend them, again, against the cynical despotism that now rules in DC, under the guise of Conservatism/Expediencyism...

"let them eat cake..."


262 posted on 06/14/2005 9:00:58 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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Are the numbers on the poll dropping for...

EXTENDED

MADE PERMANENT

When I voted yesterday, the DROPPED was at 15.5%

263 posted on 06/14/2005 9:13:27 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pageonetoo
Patriot Act implies that we should blindly follow the lead of our Politicians, as they suspend rights guaranteed by our constitution. There is no other reason for this 'Patriot Act", but to suspend rights.

I disagree that the Patriot Act suspends rights guaranteed by the constitution. The Fourth Amendment does not say a subpoena can only be issued by the Judicial Branch.

Is there potential for abuse? Sure, when isn't there potential for abuse? Seems that there was some controversy about Clinton using the IRS to audit people he didn't like. That doesn't mean the IRS shouldn't be allowed to audit anyone. Did Clinton have anything to do with Vince Foster or Ron Brown? I don't know. But, Clinton was not above the law just because he was President. If it could have been proven, he would have been charged.

Does the Constitution guarantee me the right to bear arms? It certainly does. But, I am not legally able to purchase a fully automatic weapon. Does a highway patrolman have the right to issue me a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt in my own car? Not in my opinion. I hate that seatbelt law.

Do judges have perfect judgement? No, I think Terri Schivio's civil rights were violated. So why should only judges be allowed to issue subpoena? They are not all knowing and perfect.

During the Cold War did the CIA have to obtain a subpoena to spy on the Soviet Union? No. I think of this in the same way. Terrorism is the same type of threat, only we are not dealing with a foreign government.

With other types of administrative subpoenas, there are only certain circumstances when they can be used. Put is some wording defining a terrorist activity, define when it can be used, and I see nothing wrong with it.

264 posted on 06/14/2005 9:50:56 AM PDT by faq
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