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To: BlackElk
Coincidentally, most of the actual surviving neocons are also Jewish: Norman Podhoretz, Midge Decter, Irving Kristol, Gertrude Himmelfarb, etc., which takes on a very exaggerated importance for some reason among the so-called "paleo""conservatives", particularly those of the "blood and soil" variety.

And of course the fact that you couldn't back that up with a single piece of writing or statement from a paleo doesn't matter any. Hey, why let facts get the way of a good slander?

81 posted on 06/18/2005 3:01:45 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest
If the named individuals are Jewish by ancestry (as they uncontrovertibly are) AND if the paleopantywaists lose their lunch over the very idea of allying politically with such Jewish people as those named (and they certainly do) AND if the ones who have a cow over allying with such Jewish people are of the "blood and soil" variety such as the Rockford Institute crowd (and they certainly are), then truth is always a complete defense to any charge of any kind of defamation (black letter law as we call it) including libel (which is the written variety of defamation rather than the oral variety known as slander).

Read any issue of Chronicles, the monthly paleorag of the Rockford Institute. Access the website: Chronicles.com. for up-to-date raving lunacy masquerading as "paleo""conservatism." One can also access the websites of their pals: Lavender Justin Raimondo: antiwar.com, for example. The antisemitic Raimondo, a part-timer for that Russian newspaper known as Pravda (remember back in the day?)

I will happily allow the Rockford Institute and antiwar.com to stand for themselves. Let actual conservatives access such trash and there will be no further debate.

There may be respectable conservative views that are skeptical as to whether to go to war at a particular place or a particular time against a particular enemy. The Rockford Institute and antiwar.com are not holders of respectable conservative opinion. Rather they are in the same category as such as Neville Chamberlain. Diployak is no substitute for action. If anyone dares to assume the name conservative, he or she should be prepared to lead, follow or get the heck out of the way. In this respect, Pat Buchanan and not Raimondo or Fleming is the model.

What do you imagine was "slander" or libel and why?

Do you also defend the late Samuel Francis, editor of the newspaper of what used to be called the White Citizens' Councils but more recently the "Conservative" Citizens' Councils. Atheism, coupled with "blood and soil conservatism" coupled with addressing neo-Nazi groups like American Renaissance for which he was fired by the Washington Times. He was also an atheist without other redeeming social virtues or skills.

The so-called paleos have not gotten over the fact that Reagan treated them like funny uncles not to be hired or put on display or listened to. They simply cannot imagine why and, in about 1986, when reality set in that Reagan had no use for them, they invented a useful mythology of making believe that THEY were the REAL conservatives and that the long-time Reaganauts were some sort of usurpers taking THEIR conservative movement away from them. No one in the 1960s-1970s conservative movement (YAF, YRs, CRs, etc.) ever heard of these academic exotic flora and fauna and delusionists. No one who counts as a conservative ever will hear of them. They are collectively nobody and nothing as they should be.

83 posted on 06/19/2005 7:21:00 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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