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Joking Pilots in Commuter Jet Crash Wanted to 'have a Little Fun' by Climbing to 41,000 Feet
AP ^ | AP-ES-06-13-05 1117EDT

Posted on 06/13/2005 8:45:15 AM PDT by TheOtherOne

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1 posted on 06/13/2005 8:45:16 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: TheOtherOne

Hold ma beer n watch dis!


2 posted on 06/13/2005 8:47:51 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Aeronaut

Pingable?


3 posted on 06/13/2005 8:47:51 AM PDT by Dashing Dasher (To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children...)
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Darwin award on the way??


4 posted on 06/13/2005 8:48:23 AM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: TheOtherOne

Hold muh beer alert.


5 posted on 06/13/2005 8:48:27 AM PDT by Maceman (The Qur'an is Qur'ap.)
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To: varyouga

Darwin Award Winners?


6 posted on 06/13/2005 8:48:56 AM PDT by Dashing Dasher (To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of FReepers...)
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To: TheOtherOne

Hold muh Pepsi and watch this......CRASH! Alert.


7 posted on 06/13/2005 8:50:21 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Only two requisites to be a judge. Gray hair to look wise and hemmorhoids to look concerned.)
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To: handy old one

Double Darwin.


8 posted on 06/13/2005 8:50:41 AM PDT by Idisarthur
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To: TheOtherOne

Geez, glad no one on the ground got hurt by the actions of these two.


9 posted on 06/13/2005 8:51:09 AM PDT by caver (In the words of that illustrious socialite twit Paris Hilton, "That's hot".)
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10 posted on 06/13/2005 8:51:23 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: Safetgiver

bump


11 posted on 06/13/2005 8:51:43 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: TheOtherOne

Well, now we know the published maximum ceiling for that aircraft is only good for 2 minutes. The manufacturer better put out a warning notice.


12 posted on 06/13/2005 8:51:51 AM PDT by demlosers
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Take the Pepsi Challenge


13 posted on 06/13/2005 8:52:22 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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"This is more a story of pilots having time on their hands and playing with things in the cockpit that they shouldn't," he said.

New standard equipment in all modern jet aircraft is a big dog. The pilot's job is to feed the dog. The dog's job is to bite the pilot if he tries to touch anything.

14 posted on 06/13/2005 8:52:33 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (The Crew Chief's Toolbox: A roll around cabinet full of specialists.)
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I don't understand why they could not airstart the engines once they were at a lower altitude. Something is wrong here.


15 posted on 06/13/2005 8:53:59 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

yes...


16 posted on 06/13/2005 8:54:39 AM PDT by demlosers
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I'm not a pilot, but maybe (Maybe?) something burned out at that high altitude, or else the altitude caused some sort of other permanent damage?


17 posted on 06/13/2005 8:55:14 AM PDT by rudy45
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Good thing they didn't kill anyone else.


18 posted on 06/13/2005 8:55:19 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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This article does nothing to shed light on why the engines failed. They were flying a light load at the operating ceiling of the aircraft. What happened?

The article makes much of the pilots' "see if we can do it" attitude, but they were still within the altitude envelope approved by the FAA.

19 posted on 06/13/2005 8:55:51 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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From AV Web in October regarding original incident:
http://www.avweb.com/newswire/10_43a/leadnews/188357-1.html


They almost made it. Pilots of a Pinnacle Airlines CRJ2 apparently glided their powerless regional jet for 20 minutes and almost 100 miles before it crashed two miles short of the Jefferson City, Mo., airport late Thursday.

Now, the NTSB is trying to figure out why both engines apparently stopped, possibly while the plane was at cruise. The plane was on a repositioning flight from Little Rock, Ark., to Minneapolis. Only the pilots, Captain Jesse Rhodes, of Palm Harbor, Fla., and First Officer Peter Cesarz, of Helotes, Texas, were on board when the regional jet went down in a residential area of the city, narrowly missing several houses.

Both pilots were killed but no one on the ground was hurt. NTSB spokeswoman Carol Carmody said flight data recorder information showed the plane was at 41,000 feet, about 100 miles south of Jefferson City, at 9:51 p.m. Four minutes later, both engines quit. Other reports suggest one engine quit at cruise and the other during the emergency descent. The plane crashed at 10:15 p.m.

Carmody said 41,000 feet is the maximum altitude for the CRJ2 and told reporters that exceeding that altitude could cause engine failure.

She also said there was no clear indication of the cause of engine stoppage and investigators don't know why the plane was flying so high. "That's the most interesting thing," she said.

Carmody said the plane had been pulled from a scheduled flight earlier Thursday when an indicator light went on for its bleed air system. Unspecified maintenance was performed before the plane took off later that evening.


20 posted on 06/13/2005 8:56:03 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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