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Live Senate Thread: C-span 2 2:00PM est..The LAST judicial nomination for the immediate future..
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Posted on 06/13/2005 8:43:47 AM PDT by ken5050

Good Monday morning, fellow political junkies. Trust everyone had a good weekend. The Senate convenes at 2:PM this afternoon, still in Executive session, to consider the nomination of Tom Griffith to the DC circuit. Four hours of debate are schedued, and I believe Frist will ask for a vote at 6P unless the Dems object. Reid said that Leahy has some reservations about the nominee...Oh, Joy..(/sarcasm) What I'd like to do in today's thread, is discuss your thoughts about the last few weeks in the Senate, and what you think the future might hold.


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At the end of Thursday's session, after the vote to confirm Judge Pryor, the members of the Judiciary committee met in the Senate cloakroom. Specter asked for a vote on Terrence Boyle, but unhappily agreed to Ted Kennedy's request for a week's delay to try and get some additional documentation.

This is the Dems' new strategy of not-quite-filabustering. Today's Washington Times has a must read article explaining all of this, which I encourage you to read immediately "Senate Democrats develop new filabuster strategy"

I wanted to toss out one aspect of the votes last week that really hasn't been explored. That is that three GOP members of the Gang of 14, Snowe, Collins, and Chafee voted AGAINST confirmation of Pryor. While I think it's sad that these RINOS didn't support their President's nominee, in the long run I think it way well turn out well for us when the SC vacancies occur. Here's why.

Two members if the cabal, Graham and DeWine have been very clear in stating that if the Dems filabuster based upon the nominee having a conservative ideology, they will support the nuclear option. Those two votes, along with the VP's, will provide a 51 vote majority to change the rules. However, if the Dems do indeed filabuster, I think a very persuasive argument can be made to the the 3 RINOS to support the nuclear option. The very fact that they voted AGAINST the nominee makes, in effect, a telling point, that there was a vote. It's hard to put the genie back in the bottle after it's out. They were able to exercise their senatorial right, and responsibility to vote, and NOW they want to deny all their other GOP senators the right to do the same thing? It doesn't hold water. I think that ALL of the GOP compromisers will end up supporting the use of the nuclear option.

I think that Reid knows this. Therefore, if he's going to force the issue, does he do it over Boyle, or wait until a SC vacancy opens?

I think we should also pay close attention to what both leaders say today in their opening comments. Both may well try an lay down markers. BTW, what are the odds that Reid says something regarding Cheney's dig at Dean?

It also appears that Bush will, happily, NOT give-in to the stupid demands of Dodd and Biden for yet more data, and he will make Bolton a recess appointment, in effect, as Chris Matthews drolly observed yesterday, "making Bolton his own personal representative to the UN.." Cute...I, for one, like the sound of it..

Other significant, and not-so significant events on tap today:

1. The Michael Jackson trial verdict watch continues.

2. Tucker Carlson's show premiers tonight on MSNBC at 9PM. Does anyone think it coincidental that Hannity gets the VP for an exclusive interview tonight AT THE SAME TIME? Cheney has some very "nice" things to say about dean. Well worth watching. I guess Tucker can always count on the lead in audience from Kieth Olbermann.

And lastly, just a few words to tell you all how much I've enjoyed starting these Senate confirmation threads, and to thank all of you for your contributions, but special kudos must go out to OXENinFla and Cboldt for their great work in diggin up all the Senate calendars, rules, regs, and procedures. Many thanks. I don't plan on doing anymore daily threads until the next big judicial nomination. Regards...

1 posted on 06/13/2005 8:43:47 AM PDT by ken5050
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'The LAST judicial nomination' for the immediate future..

sounds like an episode from the Twilight Zone.. :)

2 posted on 06/13/2005 8:47:52 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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RE: Kavanaugh's Nomination on Indefinite Hold
[Edward Whelan 06/13 10:57 AM]
Another very knowledgeable Senate staffer tells me that Harry Edwards will be taking senior status by the end of 2005 and that Kavanaugh’s nomination will be moved at that point. This same staffer tells me that four Republicans – Grassley, Hatch, Kyl, and Sessions – support the hold.

Kavanaugh's Nomination on Indefinite Hold
[Edward Whelan 06/13 09:49 AM]
Bad news for Brett Kavanaugh: Perhaps I’ve missed it in the papers, but I am reliably informed by a very knowledgeable Senate staffer that the Senate Judiciary Committee is holding Kavanaugh’s nomination until another vacancy develops on the D.C. Circuit.

I gather that this hold has something to do with the longstanding dispute over whether the D.C. Circuit needs 12 active judges. Janice Rogers Brown became the 10th active member of that court, and Tom Griffith is in line to become the 11th.

I haven’t heard which Republican senator (or, possibly, senators) on the Judiciary Committee is combining with Democrats to hold Kavanaugh’s nomination. I do have a guess in mind, and it’s not Chairman Specter.

I have no information on whether another vacancy is likely soon. Does anyone?

(from Nat'l Review's "Bench Memos")


3 posted on 06/13/2005 8:49:32 AM PDT by pookie18 (Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean!!)
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To: Howlin; Congressman Billybob; maggiefluffs; Cboldt; Kerretarded; texasflower; Zeppelin; ...

Good morning all..FYI


4 posted on 06/13/2005 8:50:13 AM PDT by ken5050
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The c-span 2 schedule shows a Senate Lynching Apology vote today, also...

On c-span at 4:30 ET, they are having a LIVE Senate lynching apology presser...

There is a thread regarding the topic...I hadn't heard they were doing this until this morning...


5 posted on 06/13/2005 8:50:59 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Txsleuth; All

Sen. George Allen (R-VA) and Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-VA) hold a news conference and other events on the Hill to discuss the passage of a Senate resolution that apologizes for the Senate's failure to pass federal anti-lynching laws between 1882 and 1968.


6 posted on 06/13/2005 8:52:36 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: ken5050
It also appears that Bush will, happily, NOT give-in to the stupid demands of Dodd and Biden for yet more data, and he will make Bolton a recess appointment,

Speculation or did Bush say this?

7 posted on 06/13/2005 8:53:06 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: ken5050

According to Harry Reid, the whole country has been shut down for the last two months...

Therefore, if you want to discuss the last two months in the Senate---they have put the whole country under a spell to keep us from living our lives...

Do you think they will take the spell off today, after Griffith's nomination is voted on? LOL

I read somewhere yesterday, that the Dems are asking for more info re: Bolton...so I think he should be a recess appointment...and the Senate dems shouldn't get one thing they are demanding..


8 posted on 06/13/2005 8:55:19 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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I wonder if Sheets will show up in full regalia.


9 posted on 06/13/2005 8:56:27 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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10 posted on 06/13/2005 8:57:09 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I hate Hurricane Season!)
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To: ken5050
OH damn! I've got a dental appointment....OH HAPPY JOY..not!!

I'm terrified of those dang it dental drills!! KEEP me posted though!! ;(

11 posted on 06/13/2005 8:58:09 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: pookie18

Thanks..Pookster..good info..no 'toon for the thread today?


12 posted on 06/13/2005 9:00:43 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Raycpa

I think both Bill Kristol and Fred Barnes said it would happen that way..


13 posted on 06/13/2005 9:01:58 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: RoseofTexas
Choices. Which is more pleasurable?


14 posted on 06/13/2005 9:02:00 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: ken5050; OXENinFLA; Cboldt

"The LAST judicial nomination for the immediate future."

THANKS to you three for making possible these threads.

We must press on, find ways to evict the DNC squatters from our Constitutional Real Estate.

And evict the RINOs and OTHER Dems from office!


15 posted on 06/13/2005 9:02:10 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: RoseofTexas

Can you receive the net through your fillings?


16 posted on 06/13/2005 9:02:48 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: NormsRevenge

I wish he would---according to an article that c-span read, the Southern Senators have been the ones filibustering this all these years...


17 posted on 06/13/2005 9:04:34 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: NormsRevenge
I hope the Republicans grew a backbone over the weekend. I won't hold my breath.
18 posted on 06/13/2005 9:04:40 AM PDT by possumdawg (There are three types of people- those that can count and those who cannot)
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To: ken5050

Ugh...just the thought...gosh, I'm getting antsy now! bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz(sound of drill)....ughhhhhhh, more Xanax plez!!! :)


19 posted on 06/13/2005 9:06:15 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Raycpa
Hmmm... on the other hand the drill would be more pleasurable, but I'd rather choose NONE! LOL!
20 posted on 06/13/2005 9:07:54 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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