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Gitmo In, Gitmo Out?
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 17 June 2005 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 06/13/2005 7:24:30 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob

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To: bozot
"While you are at it, look up the statistics on how many young American men die, per thousand, in auto accidents, shootings, and other causes here in the US

Most deaths are in the liberal "utopias", too. Maybe the lefties ( who have failed everything they've ever done), should clean up their own back yards before trying to tell others what to do elsewhere. Cleaning up their own messes should keep them busy and out of our hair for decades!

21 posted on 06/13/2005 7:58:15 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: dts32041

Yes, of course. You may share this with others as you choose. Just preserve my copyright and spell my name right. LOL.

John


22 posted on 06/13/2005 7:59:13 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
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To: Guenevere

..Kristol....quacks like a conservative when it suits him...

AGREE! I can recall when he was all in favor of the Iraq war.....then, when seemed unpopular....he began to turn.
Brit Hume took Kristol down a peg on FNS.


23 posted on 06/13/2005 8:00:07 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: Congressman Billybob
OK, done, though I don't think I will send it to my two senators osama obama and eddie haskell.
24 posted on 06/13/2005 8:01:26 AM PDT by dts32041 (Robin Hood, stealing from the government and giving back to tax payer. Where is he today?)
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To: bozot

While you are at it look up how many people die each year in the US because of doctor's mistakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a military family, we are willing to make the sacrifice to help keep the people of this country safe!!!!!!!!!!!


25 posted on 06/13/2005 8:01:34 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: 4integrity
On Fox News Sunday,Bill Kristol, a supposed conservative, suggested closing Gitmo.

Maybe he's been busy and not really paying serious attention to the issue, or he's spent too much time reading the liberal press.
Honestly, Americans could care less about Gitmo. The only thing they want changed is the anti-American attacks committed by our own press! They're the only ones making a big deal about this.
Nobody else cares. People (the voters) feel safer will the crazies behind bars.

26 posted on 06/13/2005 8:03:27 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Guenevere

..We just voted Matinez in...

Guenevere, Florida here too. And, that's what I said when I called his office. He owes the people who campaigned for him (cause the President wanted us to..!)and voted for him an explanation of exactly where he would put these detainees. Guess, Martinez put a lot of thought into his suggestion to close Gitmo (sarcasm..)cause his staffer said they had not been given talking points to answer questions re this issue. Speaks volumes.


27 posted on 06/13/2005 8:06:46 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: Congressman Billybob
To press and politicians, I say: Research the facts. Tell the truth. Quit being dumb as a brick. Is that so d*mned difficult?

Unfortunately, for most of the ones you are talking about, the answer is "Yes". Their agenda is at odds with truth, so guess which wins?

You have written a lot of this before but it deserves to be said again, and again, and again. That said, some will never learn, but the lesser fools might.

Good article!

Though you grind a fool in a mortar, grinding him like grain with a pestle, you will not remove his folly from him. - Proverbs 27:22

28 posted on 06/13/2005 8:08:08 AM PDT by Gritty ("Lawyers will turn Gitmo into Clinton's impeachment revels or the Michael Jackson trial-R E Tyrrell)
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To: 4integrity
#27..Figures.

I need to give them a call too.

29 posted on 06/13/2005 8:09:08 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: concerned about politics

I guess the issue keeps getting mixed up.

The main problem is not why real criminals/terrorists are behind bars.

If someone is guilty they should be tried and punished according to the law.

Jus because the secrecy and the reluctance of having a decent trials - otherwise how we know that those people are really criminals?
Some of them had been picked up in heat of the war and some of them were innocent, or at least not guilty to the level to get this treatment.

Here is the credibility of the USA is on the line about law and legality.
The superpower status allows to ignore this, but I dont think that the isolation would serve the best interest of the country


30 posted on 06/13/2005 8:14:52 AM PDT by bozot
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To: Congressman Billybob
Give all the Gitmo detainees a sex change operation, then release them back to their tolerant muslim friends.
32 posted on 06/13/2005 8:24:46 AM PDT by BallyBill
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To: angrylibertarian
"As long as there is a war on, everyone is subject to the geneva convention."

This is categorically untrue, and the rest of your assertion is equally flawed.

The Geneva Conventions are mutually agreed conventions of war. Show me the signature to any agreement by any one of the Iraqi terrorists.....
33 posted on 06/13/2005 8:27:02 AM PDT by rockrr (Gregorovych Nyet!)
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To: angrylibertarian
Please read the plain English of the Geneva Conventions. They have FOUR conditions. THREE of them do not apply. Do your homework and report back.

You also fail to deal with the Law of War, which applies generally unless the Conventions make exceptions. Under that law, the British executed Nathan Hale, and the Americans executed Major John Andre. I assume you've seen the executions of Germans AFTER the end of WW II, by American troops.

Do you think those Americans were just being barbarians? Or, have you looked at the kind of trials and the applicable law which led to those executions?

In short, you haven't done your homework. You are riding on baseless assumptions, just like most reporters.

John / Billybob
34 posted on 06/13/2005 8:30:04 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
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To: Guenevere

toll free number to US Capitol and Sen. Martinez' office...
1-877-762-8762.


35 posted on 06/13/2005 8:32:02 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: Congressman Billybob
This column? Not a moment too soon and if wishes came true - would be up front and center in every MSM. They are so disconnected from the public and this uproar about Gitmo is merely one more symptom. As I have said before, democrat members of my family who never ever miss voting - could care less. We had a get-together last week and to a person, they do not care, do not want to know, and Gitmo is a good a place as any for them.

Re German POW camps - there were five in Louisiana. Some of the POWs picked cotton for the farmers whose males were away fighting the war. They earned .80 a day. Oh the humanity, eh? Where was ACLU? We had nearly half a million POWs scattered across the country - mostly in the south and southeast in rural areas. Comparing the two sets of POWs (WW2 & WOT), the fine hand of the ACLU, the MSM, and the various "humanity groups" makes very plain the direction they are trying to take our country.

37 posted on 06/13/2005 8:41:37 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: mariabush

"We will never be completely safe "

Ok... You inprison the muslims...
Then the leftist (practically whole of Europe)...
Then the leftist in the US...
Then the Chineese ,the Russians...
Where would you stop ?


39 posted on 06/13/2005 8:46:08 AM PDT by bozot
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To: 4integrity

Thanks!


40 posted on 06/13/2005 8:56:34 AM PDT by Guenevere
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