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Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Yahoo Associated Press ^ | 1:57am, Mon June 13, 2005 | PETER PRENGAMAN

Posted on 06/13/2005 2:01:55 AM PDT by bd476

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1 posted on 06/13/2005 2:01:55 AM PDT by bd476
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"They all know what they did with her that night."

I'm wondering if she was taken away into 'white sex slavery' or something weird like that.

2 posted on 06/13/2005 3:09:35 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Sounds of laughter, shades of life are ringing through my open ears exciting and inviting me)
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To: bd476; All
Just goes to show the value of searching, and how wrong early headlines can be-- I thought she had been found, dead... but here:

Natalee's body found... (false report)

...the headline has been amended.


3 posted on 06/13/2005 3:40:59 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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Kids who go on class trips should stay with their class and not go off with three boys for flirtations. My guess is she slipped away from the chaperones who didnt pay enough attention. This happens on a lot of class trips and now the chaperones have a guilt trip laid on them for the rest of their lives.

If the girl had behaved responsibly they wouldnt be looking for her now. I guess thats beside the point , but it still remains a factor in her dissappearance.


4 posted on 06/13/2005 4:10:02 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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OF course the KNOW what happened to her BUT they are well to do kids and the "security guards" were supposed to take the blame. Unfortunately they just couldn't make it stick so back to square one. They don't want to punish the boys over a silly American so they'll have to come up with something else.
5 posted on 06/13/2005 4:14:37 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: sgtbono2002

True.

It is also true that hindsight is 20/20.


6 posted on 06/13/2005 4:24:32 AM PDT by bd476
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The mother is sadly right. I personally believe that Natalee ran into Aruba's version of Robert Chambers.


7 posted on 06/13/2005 4:25:56 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: beyond the sea

Hopefully they will find her soon.


8 posted on 06/13/2005 4:26:16 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

It doesnt take hindsight to know that kids will screw up on class trips if they arent watched religiously. They have been doing it for years and will continue to do it. Most girls dont slip off with three boys usually one is enough.


9 posted on 06/13/2005 4:36:32 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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The reason they have chaperons is to PREVENT foolish decisions like this. I have NO SYMPATHY for the chaperons.
10 posted on 06/13/2005 4:39:48 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: sgtbono2002

What you are saying is true.

However until the truth or a complete story is revealed, I am unwilling to lay blame at her feet, or assume anything about what happened.


11 posted on 06/13/2005 4:44:41 AM PDT by bd476
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Let us hold hope that that is not the case.


12 posted on 06/13/2005 4:55:17 AM PDT by bd476
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I agree. I certainly do hope that that is not the case.

(Lord knows, I've been wrong before.)


13 posted on 06/13/2005 4:58:27 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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The reason they have chaperons is to PREVENT foolish decisions like this. I have NO SYMPATHY for the chaperons.

After talking to my wife, sister, and some girl friends, they are all of the opinion that her BEST FRIENDS should be raked over the coals for this disappearance too, and I agree with them. What kind of friend(s) lets you go off on some strange island with three guys she just met by herself? I mean, if Natalee was drinking, a "friend" is someone who keeps an eye out for you, and says "that might not be a good idea for you to leave with them".

...and on the drinking thing, I was married in Aruba last October, and we had a crew of people go to Carlos n Charlies one night, and EVERYONE in the place is drinking. Natalees mother is living in a dream world if she didn't think her daughter wasn't drinking that night.

14 posted on 06/13/2005 5:44:08 AM PDT by Fedupwithit (Democrats are just whistling past the graveyard...soon enough they will be occupants)
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I don't see how seven chaperones can reasonably hope to keep tabs on 124 teenagers. That is almost 1 to 20. I have not heard anything about how the trip was organized, what sort of guidelines, if any, were given to the children. Were there any behaviors that would result in being sent home? Was there even a system for sending a child home who violate any rules, if they existed. Had such a trip been done in the past? Had more reasonable alternatives, like Disney World or Panama City, Florida, been considered? Were they given any guidelines about hanging out at bars until the wee hours of the morning and picking up locals? What sort of activities were the other children in the group doing? Were there organized activities or were they all just on their own?


15 posted on 06/13/2005 5:44:42 AM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: nmh
The reason they have chaperons is to PREVENT foolish decisions like this. I have NO SYMPATHY for the chaperons.

Natalee was 18. That is an adult. You cannot blame the chaperones for the actions of an adult.

16 posted on 06/13/2005 5:50:09 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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what sort of guidelines, if any, were given to the children

A lot of these "children" were 18, like Natalee.

17 posted on 06/13/2005 5:51:18 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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...they are all of the opinion that her BEST FRIENDS should be raked over the coals for this disappearance too, and I agree with them.

From the start I've thought that she may not have had a lot of close friends, or at least none on this trip. All of the comments I've seen thus far seem to have come from acquaintances. Good friends would've been looking out for her and wouldn't have let her go off on her own like this. It seemed odd from the beginning that nobody noticed that she was missing until she failed to show up for the plane.

18 posted on 06/13/2005 5:54:44 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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FWIW - I doubt there is much the adults on the trip could do to prevent a motivated 17-18 year old from sneaking off. It was the last night there, so it's not like they could send her home early. I also have read that Natalee got in the car with only Joran, then the other two materialized. That's pretty plausible.
19 posted on 06/13/2005 6:13:09 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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The best advice I heard regarding this was from a criminal investigator who basically said, "Never ditch a friend, ESPECIALLY when they are under the influence of alcohol.
20 posted on 06/13/2005 6:18:24 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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