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Boeing challenge spoils Airbus party
Guardian Unlimited ^ | June 13, 2005 | David Gow

Posted on 06/12/2005 7:51:51 PM PDT by Righty_McRight

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1 posted on 06/12/2005 7:51:52 PM PDT by Righty_McRight
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To: Righty_McRight

It appears that Boeing has had all the happiness that it can stand and is removing the gloves. When they have done this in the past, all sorts of interesting things come from the minds of their engineers.


2 posted on 06/12/2005 7:54:47 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Righty_McRight

Boeings spokesman was heard to also add ...

" No Acceptamos Euros"


3 posted on 06/12/2005 8:01:41 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: RS

" No Acceptamos Euros"


Coffee spewing everywhere...


4 posted on 06/12/2005 8:05:38 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Righty_McRight

Now Boeing!! DUMP CATIA!!!! That's the Frogs backdoor into your designs. Face it. Get rid of it.


5 posted on 06/12/2005 8:08:10 PM PDT by datura (Why is the Constitution so hard for people to understand? (Other than lack of education.))
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what's CATIA? a consortium?


6 posted on 06/12/2005 8:23:38 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Righty_McRight
Airbus has also been damaged by a long-running Franco-German power struggle at the top of Eads, its main parent, which has cancelled a series of planned events at the show because it has yet to appoint its new co-chief executives.

No ship has ever sailed the sea with two captains. Those that have ended up at the bottom. Ships and organizations have one captain, for good reason.

7 posted on 06/12/2005 8:26:04 PM PDT by kylaka
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To: Army Air Corps

Airbus is the best thing that ever happen to Boeing. Competition is a good thing.


8 posted on 06/12/2005 8:31:00 PM PDT by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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To: -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-

Yes, competition is good when competing parties bear roughly the same risks. Airbus passes its R&D costs (among other things) off on to the European rate payer because it is, in part, a state enterprise. Other companies have budget concerns that Airbus can simply subsidise.


9 posted on 06/12/2005 8:35:00 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

luckily for boeing, even though their competition is subsidized, it's tragically incompetent.


10 posted on 06/12/2005 8:38:59 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Army Air Corps

Hehehe...GO BOEING! They aren't going to just sit and take it any more like a bunch of Republicans!

11 posted on 06/12/2005 8:43:39 PM PDT by rlmorel
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To: WOSG

Yes, I am interested...what is it? I did a search, and it seems like some kind of job pool/CAD training thing...or is it software?


12 posted on 06/12/2005 8:46:33 PM PDT by rlmorel
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To: flashbunny

"...tragically incompetent."

I love that line!


13 posted on 06/12/2005 8:48:20 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: WOSG

CATIA is CAD/CAM software that Boeing uses for design/machining/testing. CATIA is made by Dassault - the French aircraft maker - and marketed by IBM here in the US.

Years ago - when I was in the business of cutting parts for Boeing - the maintenance agreement for one seat of CATIA per year was $42K. That was Boeing's cost. And they had thousands of them. Talk about subsidizing your rivals. How hard would it be for the Frogs to put invisible spyware into that code, to know what Boeing is doing? Not hard at all.


14 posted on 06/12/2005 9:07:53 PM PDT by datura (Why is the Constitution so hard for people to understand? (Other than lack of education.))
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To: WOSG

CATIA is a 3d-solid modelling software system, extremely powerful. It was developed and marketed by IBM, but then sold to Dassault, who builds the Mirage fighter. Dassault has been acquiring lots of powerful software for industry.


15 posted on 06/12/2005 9:10:31 PM PDT by budj
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To: Righty_McRight; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; ...
Boeing was in talks with another 27 airlines over potentially 427 more orders for its new 787 Dreamliner - raising the prospect of nearly 700 orders for the fuel-efficient, long-range 250-seater jet.

Wow! Ping!

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail not by posting to this thread.

16 posted on 06/12/2005 9:13:13 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Army Air Corps

Maybe ? the Sonic Cruiser will be launched in 2010 ? 2015 ?


17 posted on 06/12/2005 9:23:25 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness; Central Scrutiniser

I doubt it. The premium market for high speed is too small.


18 posted on 06/12/2005 9:27:36 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

About a month ago i paid a visit to the Boeing website and their press releases indicate that they still itend to pursue the Sonic Cruiser. Boeing, unlike Airburst, conversed with airlines and airports in order to assess their existing infrastructure and needs and used that "grocery list" as the baseline for the SC. Imagine, asking the customer what they want and what they can handle before you design an aircraft.


19 posted on 06/12/2005 9:27:54 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: budj

You've got it backwards, bud. Dassault developed it long before IBM started marketing it. Dassault used it back when machines were tape readers, or merely NC machines - not even CNCs yet.

Boeing decided to use it, but needed someone to service the contract. Enter IBM.


20 posted on 06/12/2005 9:28:59 PM PDT by datura (Why is the Constitution so hard for people to understand? (Other than lack of education.))
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