Playing the China Card (Startling re-analysis of Red China & Tiananmen massacre)

The New American ^ | January 1, 1991 | Bryan Ellison

[BringBackMyHUAC]

Although Golitsyn’s book does not deal at length with the situation in mainland China, it does provide detailed methods for interpreting events in such countries. In light of the dialectic, the student demonstrations and government massacre last year take on new meaning.

Since at least the early 1970s, the Communist party of China has been poised to create a spectacular but controlled “democratization” at any appropriate time. The party had by then spent two decades consolidating its power, building a network of informants and agents that permeate every aspect of Chinese life, both in the cities and in the countryside. Government control is now so complete that it will not be seriously disturbed by free speech and democratic elections; power can now be exerted through the all-pervasive but largely invisible infrastructure of control. A transition to an apparently new system, using dialectical tactics, is now starting to occur.

[BringBackMyHUAC]

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[Frank_Discussion]

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[Paul Ross]

Golitsyn's informed dialectical "heads-up" to us is what allowed the true conservative watch dogs (i.e., no one in Xlinton's CIA) to EXPECT the following:

U.S. Grapples with Intelligence Threat from China
By DAVID MORGAN, REUTERS
06/10/05

China, whose surging growth feeds an incessant appetite for U.S. technology, poses a growing intelligence threat that the United States may be ill-equipped to combat, current and former U.S. officials say.

With the Bush administration embroiled in Iraq and the war on terrorism, intelligence experts fear it may be ignoring a determined Chinese strategy to acquire sensitive technology with commercial and military applications through informal spy networks, with potentially thousands of operatives.

Such efforts could eventually erode U.S. economic and military prominence, officials and analysts said.

The FBI lacks resources to cope, they said. Also, U.S. corporations face business pressure to transfer key research and development facilities into China in exchange for promised access to its massive domestic market.

Some U.S. companies, which have been fined over the practice, have even struck illicit deals providing China with technology to upgrade its missile systems.

“I would say that we are not paying … adequate attention to (China), because we have been so diverted by the issues of the war on terrorism,” John Gannon, former chairman of the National Intelligence Council, said at a forum this week.

Chinese officials deny suggestions of spying.

“The allegation of China’s threat is totally groundless,” said Chu Maoming, spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington.

Spies from about 100 countries sought sensitive U.S. technology last year, according to a report by the Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive.

The most determined efforts came from only a handful of nations, including China, Russia, France, Iran, North Korea and Cuba, counterintelligence officials said.

China is viewed as the most serious threat, they said. It needs foreign technology to maintain robust economic growth that attracts overseas investment and creates jobs for a vast population, still beset by poverty and unemployment, analysts said.

‘Front’ Companies

As a result, they said, China has adopted a variety of acquisition methods, including licensing, theft, cooperation and espionage — some legal and some illegal.

China has about 3,000 “front” companies in the United States that exist mainly to obtain sensitive U.S. technology, according to government estimates cited by experts.

Some 300,000 Chinese citizens and 15,000 Chinese delegations visit the United States annually. An estimated 150,000 Chinese students are at U.S. universities; many are destined for jobs at high-tech U.S. firms or national research facilities.

The Chinese government assumes such individuals “will be intelligence collectors. And many are,” said I.C. Smith, a former U.S. counterintelligence official.

A main strategy is for people to collect small pieces of intelligence that can be assembled into a useful intelligence picture, counterintelligence officials said.

Current and former officials expressed doubts about the U.S. ability to deal with China’s intelligence efforts, especially as it is embroiled in Iraq and the war on terrorism.

The FBI scaled back its China program sharply after the Cold War ended a decade ago, and still appears to lack resources, despite a subsequent buildup.

“The fact is they need appropriate resources to deal with this, and privately they’ve said they’re severely understaffed,” said Peter Brookes, a former Pentagon official now at the Heritage Foundation.

FBI credibility has also suffered from lapses, including the bungled investigation of Wen Ho Lee, the former Los Alamos Nuclear Laboratory physicist accused of spying for China until the allegations collapsed for lack of evidence.

— Additional reporting by Paul Eckert.

[BringBackMyHUAC]

Of course, what the author of this piece, or even Golitsyn himself, could not know was the frenzied effect of Red China's unlimited supply of slave-labor had on the Free Traitors of the world.

[Paul Ross]

Don't you love this part:

Some 300,000 Chinese citizens and 15,000 Chinese delegations visit the United States annually. An estimated 150,000 Chinese students are at U.S. universities; many are destined for jobs at high-tech U.S. firms or national research facilities.

[BringBackMyHUAC]

The lack of response of our political leaders to the growing Red China threat reminds me of Malcom Muggeridge's gem of a quip:

“A ruling Class which is on the run, as ours is, is capable of every fatuity. It makes the wrong decisions, chooses the wrong people, and is unable to recognize its enemies-if it does not actually prefer them to its friends.”

MALCOM MUGGERIDGE, Tread Softly for You Tread on My Jokes.

[Paul Ross]

The Golitsyn review, written before the final collapse of the Soviet empire's visible structures and political framework, was dead on target:

But a successful transition depends on the political and economic stability of Red China. George Bush, also a former director of the Council on Foreign Relations, defended his lack of response to the massacre by declaring on June 5th that “we must react to setbacks in a way which stimulates rather than stifles progress toward open and representative systems.” In short, Beijing cannot afford to lose too much aid, lest its controlled dialectic collapse before it can be pulled off. For the United States, the only way out of this dialectic is to terminate all aid now, and to continue denying it after a controlled democratization is carried out. Only then can socialism be overthrown in China, and a truly new system built.

Instead we have been sucked in, particularly being gulled by the aforementioned fall of the Soviet collossus...into a false sense of security.

So we cast a blind eye on all the Chinese communist misdeeds, even after Xlinton is out, who granted them MFN status. Now the current administration pushed to let them into the WTO in the completely false expectation of being able to constrain and tame the dragon via a carrot strategy. As the evidence piles up that the strategy has not only failed of its purpose, but in fact backfired...further isolating the U.S. against hostile foreign competitors who willfully overlook the WTO rules that allows us to protect industries from dumping and destruction. Now we are left with yet another corrupted global organization which is more opposed than united behind U.S. interests.

[BringBackMyHUAC]

Good post! Clinton, of course, was ingaged in perfidy against the US. As for Pres. Bush and the Republican Party, I refer you back to post #7. This quote applies to a whole host of issues IMO.

[Paul Ross]

Indeed, it is a gem of a quip:

“A ruling Class which is on the run, as ours is, is capable of every fatuity. It makes the wrong decisions, chooses the wrong people, and is unable to recognize its enemies-if it does not actually prefer them to its friends.”

Tread Softly for You Tread on My Jokes, by Malcolm Muggeridge

Wm. F. Buckley always liked to have Muggeridge on his show, Firing Line, and would frequently refer to his writings when he wasn't. I wonder why he never internalized the basic lesson of this wry observation... Buckley himself has been guilty of misjudging the intentions of China, which he wrote in 1997 was not a threat to us because it was an "Irredentist" power. One that was essentially inward-looking. Hoo boy... He really blew it.

A more accurate picture of China's mindset, is revealed by a typical representative who lives here:

Check this post from "Li333" at AsiaWind.com out

China will be number one
Author: Li333
Date: 10-14-04

"According to the 1992 CIA factbook, the real GNP of China in terms of purchasing power parity was already one half of the GNP of America back in 1992.

Since 1992, the GNP of China has tripled, it is now 3 times bigger than in 1992, whereas the GNP of America has only increased by one third since 1992.

In other words, the real GNP of China in terms of purchasing power parity is already bigger than the GNP of America.

Actually, the real GNP of China overtook the GNP of America in 2002.

Now, when the GNP of Japan overtook the GNP of Germany in 1968, every newspaper published the news around the world.

How come that, in 2002, when the GNP of China overtook the GNP of America, no newspapers published the news around the world? Why the discrimination against China?

By 2010, the real GNP of China will be 2 times bigger than the GNP of America.

By 2020, the real GNP of China will be 4 times bigger than the GNP of America.

By 2030, the real GNP of China will be 6 times bigger than the GNP of America, and the income per capita, the GNP per capita in China will be higher than the GNP per capita in America. In other words, Chinese incomes and wages will be higher than American wages in 2030, just as Japanese wages are already higher than American wages today.

By 2030, the average Chinese will be more wealthy and better educated than the average American.

China will be 5 or 6 times bigger and stronger than America very soon, and the world will have to stop looking down upon the Chinese people.

We can predict a future world where China will dominate financially, economically, militarily, in science and technology, culturally, with the Chinese language replacing the English language as the most important international language, with school kids in America learning Chinese as a foreign language ( and Chinese kids in China not needing to learn English anymore, since the American kids will know how to speak Chinese anyway ), with China dominating the world of media and entertainment, with Chinese movies, Chinese music and Chinese fashion designs spreading Chinese influence all over the world.

China will be number one."

[BringBackMyHUAC]

==China will be 5 or 6 times bigger and stronger than America very soon, and the world will have to stop looking down upon the Chinese people.

This would end in a heartbeat if the US would end all aid and trade with Communist China. The Communists are parasites sucking the wealth out of the West (using slave labor as the bait). They do not have the necessary free market internals--they are Communist afterall--capable of sustaining their economy should the West suddenly stop doing business with them. Of course, the transition for the West would not be without significant pain either. Can you imagine how many factories and businesses would have to be relocated?!?!? Having said that, I think it's only a matter of time before Red China readopts WAR COMMUNISM and nationalizes all Western assets there.

[BringBackMyHUAC]

Same goes for "Russia".

[struwwelpeter]

Are there any other sources besides Golytsin? He seems to keep coming up, and I hate to put too much faith in one single disgruntled officer. Many defectors lied to get here, some have a habit of lying to stay and make money.

Back in the 1990s I wanted to get info over there on NLOs (Russian UFOs). I was literally buried in documentation, which Russians are experts are faking. Anything you wanted to pay for, someone was selling it - auras, remote viewers, 'lost in space' cosmonauts, etc.

Sometimes I wonder if the Soviet Union merely collapsed because they lost track of what was actually real.

Like the DNC.

[dljordan]

"An estimated 150,000 Chinese students are at U.S. universities; many are destined for jobs at high-tech U.S. firms or national research facilities."

Two of these "students" were caught spying by the FBI at my company. They were transferring technical info to the Commies in China by internet. They were hired right out of a U.S. college and put to work in a secure area designing high tech electronics.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[GOP_1900AD]

RE: They were hired right out of a U.S. college and put to work in a secure area designing high tech electronics.

There are huge gaps in the entire end-to-end process for hiring an H1B. Other than the (totally separate) Export Control Approval Process (for individuals) there are no country specific, risk based caveats. An H1B from Canada is handled just like an H1B from Communist Red China. At a minimum, especially for any national security or major national technical means based work, a security clearance investigation (funded by the EMPLOYER not the taxpayer) should be mandatory. Whereas for some middle of the road work or work at companies who are not defense contractors in the strictest sense, a security clearance may not be required for a Citizen, I argue that for H1Bs and maybe even Permanent Residents, one should be required. Perhaps this needs to be an Amendment to the Patriot Act.

[GOP_1900AD]

Asiawind, the enemy within and without:

http://www.asiawind.com/forums/list.php?f=3

[hershey]

Saw a piece on Fox yesterday by a China/nuclear weapons expert. He said China's been stealing, buying every nuclear secret for years...thanks Clinton...and has the blueprints of every single nuclear missile the US ever made. They've sold these secrets and parts to all comers, Pakistan, Russia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, etc.. We begged them to stop, and they said, okay, we won't sell anything like that. When sales continued, they said it was 'rogue' elements, not the govt. selling them. One missile in particular, something like 467K, anyway, it can be fitted in the back of a pickup truck, which makes it extremely attractive to Islamofascists aiming to blow up the US and Israel. They're lining up around the block for this missile. Really frightening interview.

[s_asher]

300,000 college students as potential spies huh?

There's a simple solution. Open immigration to anyone from China who can afford to move here and get a job. The wealth of a nation is dependent on its people. So let's hear a giant sucking sound from America. I'm sure our suburban lifestyle is far better than whatever they have over there.

So what if 300,000 or 3 million are potential spies? Take the best and wealthest and give them greencards. Leave China with the culls.

[GOP_1900AD]

RE: I'm sure our suburban lifestyle is far better than whatever they have over there.

For elites in the PRC, actually, life is better in the PRC. They have cheap maids and housemen, chaufered cars, and personal power unrestrained by the rule of law. All immigration from, and approvals of H1Bs and L1As from, the PRC, should be stopped cold, with the exception of political and religious refugees.