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Interview with Martin Gardner
Notices of the American Mathematical Society ^ | June/July 2005

Posted on 06/10/2005 7:22:08 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored

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To: snarks_when_bored; PatrickHenry
Snarks, thanks for posting! I love Martin Gardner's work and have several of his books on my shelf.

And thanks for the ping, PH.

21 posted on 06/11/2005 5:48:33 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: snarks_when_bored
Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science

One of the best books on science ever. I read this when it came out and I read all of Gardner's columns until he retired. No one else has ever made mathematics so much fun.

22 posted on 06/11/2005 6:47:18 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: longshadow

Creationist geology is faultless?


23 posted on 06/11/2005 6:48:58 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: PatrickHenry
Interesting that Gardner couldn't stand Mortimer Adler. My Dad bought The Great Books of the Western World for us kids in the mid-1960s. These came with a bunch of supplementary materials including "annual supplements," a whole new book on contemporary issues delivered each year. Mortimer Adler was the editor in chief of all this.

Dad died a few years ago and I've got all that stuff in my living room now. I look at those annual supplement things and read article after article which spouts liberal platitudes and glows with joy in how "The times they are a-changin'."

I want to rub Adler's nose in all that nonsense, but he seems to be dead. At least the the Great Books themselves are emminently worthwhile. Darwin's Origin and The Descent of Man are in there, of course. Long ago, I got more enjoyment out of The Iliad and Herodotus's History of the Persian Wars.

24 posted on 06/11/2005 6:57:07 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Steely Tom

Why I now read "The American Scientist" and "Physics Today" (get that one free since I am a member of the APS.)


25 posted on 06/11/2005 8:44:17 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
My wife used to get Physics Today; I think she had some sort of honorary APS membership. We stopped getting it about two years ago.

It's a good magazine, but without the old Sci Am appeal for young people. Nothing like C.L.Strong. Nothing like Mathematical Games.

Too much space devoted to obituaries.

(steely)

26 posted on 06/11/2005 9:23:30 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: VadeRetro; PatrickHenry

I too have the great books. :-)


27 posted on 06/11/2005 9:27:56 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Steely Tom
but without the old Sci Am appeal for young people. Nothing like C.L.Strong. Nothing like Mathematical Games.

Was not written for such though. I don't see any science mag appealing to kids these days. (except maybe environmental ones)

28 posted on 06/11/2005 9:29:24 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Was not written for such though. I don't see any science mag appealing to kids these days. (except maybe environmental ones).

Right.

I've long harbored the belief that the one of the factors which gave rise to the environmental movement was a horror among a certain segment of society as they observed the way science/technology/science fiction took hold of the minds and hearts of the young in the '50's and '60's (it may have started well before that but, of course, I wasn't here).

My theory is that the environmental movement attempts to preempt the romantic attachment that many young people might otherwise develop for such things as space travel, aviation... in general, energy-intensive interests that might transform the world (and the nearby planets) into a different sort of place. Sort of a mass-psychology Luddite movement, if you take my meaning.

Of course, it won't work. But it's interesting to think about. Perhaps there's a novel of some sort in there.

(steely)

29 posted on 06/11/2005 9:35:41 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: VadeRetro
Interesting that Gardner couldn't stand Mortimer Adler.

I once saw Adler being interviewed by William Buckley, many years ago. I recall Adler as being a bit of a windbag. I bought one of his books, on Aristotle. Thin stuff, really. The Great Books project was certainly worthwhile, but I can do without Adler's opinions.

30 posted on 06/11/2005 11:30:49 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Creationist geology is faultless?

Gneiss pun.....

31 posted on 06/11/2005 4:30:58 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: RadioAstronomer
Was not written for such though. I don't see any science mag appealing to kids these days.

My opinion is that it's hard to write science fiction for kids any more because they're so far ahead of us. My kids get bored with the old buzzing around the galaxy with hypothetical hyperdrive. They're looking at what's happening with artificial reality, genetic engineering, etc. and you don't see anyone writing it.

In a hundred years people will be born who will live close to 1000 years. By the end of their lives people could be living for 100,000 years.

Who's writing about this?

32 posted on 06/11/2005 7:35:50 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Who's writing about this? Good point.


33 posted on 06/11/2005 8:41:49 PM PDT by FreeRep
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To: FreeRep
Olaf Stapleton comes to mind; but he's not a contemporary.
34 posted on 06/11/2005 9:25:08 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Cyberpunk was all the rage for a while. Not sure what will be next.

Unfortunately cyberpunk was mostly really dark stuff and portrayed a very bleak future.


35 posted on 06/12/2005 6:24:18 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Doctor Stochastic; snarks_when_bored
Facts and Fallicies is one of the most important books in my personal life. I first read it when I was about eleven or twelve, and it had a profound effect on me, making me question a lot of the things I was being told. In its own way, it helped push me toward conservatism.
36 posted on 06/19/2005 3:15:20 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is not conservative!)
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