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Rural Maine Towns Give Up on Self-Government
NPR - National Public Radio ^
| June 10, 2005
| Howard Berkes
Posted on 06/10/2005 3:20:29 PM PDT by Murtyo
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I heard this on NPR this AM (yea sometimes I listen!!!). How come Maine's counties don't assume these responsibilites once a town becomes too small to exist as a legal entity?? Any Mainers can answer this?
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posted on
06/10/2005 3:20:30 PM PDT
by
Murtyo
To: Murtyo
Property taxes are killing these small towns. As more land gets taken over by the state, or converted into wilderness sanctuary and taken off the tax rolls, the townspeople have to pay more in property tax. This state is really Taxationland, not Vacationland.
To: PubliusEXMachina
So are the envirno doing this, or causing it to happen? Ideological greens who want vast tracks of the country off limit to humans or at least development by humans?
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posted on
06/10/2005 3:27:21 PM PDT
by
Murtyo
To: Murtyo
Well a little of the enviros, and a little of state land grabbing at the behest of the enviros. Also state laws that make it more costly to log the forest and make the land less attractive to investors and paper companies. So by default the state will facilitate the land purchases with enviro groups. The small towns, with people on very modest incomes, cannot continue to raise taxes, so they deorganize. Then the state picks up more of the cost of education. That is basically why the towns do this.
To: Murtyo
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To: PubliusEXMachina
very disheartening really, since I really like Maine. I am planning to have a property someday over there, say 100 acres of land with a small cabin
To: Random Nonsense
You can find it, but make sure that it is no where near the proposed North Woods National Park. You might end up losing your land to the "greater good".
And as for Roxanne Quimby, that *itch ought to take her Burts Bees money and shove it where the sun dont shine.
To: Murtyo
"Maniacs," not "Mainers." :^)
Well, vey bad trends for Maniacs, but Karl Marx would be damn proud.
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posted on
06/10/2005 3:59:02 PM PDT
by
bill1952
("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
To: Random Nonsense
LOL! I hope you have lots and lots of money to pay the taxes! I have lived here all my life and what is happening to this state is unbelievable. One county is so poor it ranks in the top five poorest in the nation and number one east of the Mississippi. In fact, 15% of the population still does not have indoor plumbing.
Maine has become a wasteland with vast tracks of property being confiscated by the rich from out of state who immediately post the land. It is so sad to see this state dwindle away. I really love it here but I really hate it here.
I wish a great conservative writer would come to Maine and write a book about what will happen to the country if liberalism is allowed to run amok like it has here. If you want to see the future of America in the care of liberals, take a drive through Washington county.
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posted on
06/10/2005 3:59:43 PM PDT
by
Shortwave
(Ted Kennedy’s rhetoric has killed more American soldiers than his car has killed women.)
To: Murtyo
[Some towns in rural Maine are ceasing to exist as independent entities, instead putting local decisions in the hands of distant state bureaucrats.]
I heard this story on NPR this morning, too.
I thought it was interesting and informative (for NPR), BUT they just had to get in their obligatory dig at "the war in Iraq". One of the interviewees was lamenting that when the town cedes authority to the state it's the same thing as giving up democracy. He then whined that we shouldn't be spending money trying to bring democracy to the Middle East when towns in Maine are being deprived of democracy.
What a crock of crap! For this spoiled New Englander to equate choosing to abide by state regulations (which are still representative and accountable) in order to cut costs, with the 50 million people in Iraq and Afghanistan who are recently freed from tyranny, torture, and genocide is an illustration of extreme cluelessness and arrogance.
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posted on
06/10/2005 3:59:52 PM PDT
by
spinestein
("Just hold your nose and vote for Kerry" --- WORST SLOGAN EVER!)
To: bill1952
Did anyone catch #6? Please FReemail me.
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posted on
06/10/2005 4:00:02 PM PDT
by
bill1952
("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
To: spinestein
Such an attitude is indicative of how they put themselves in their current situation.
Blaming their own faults on Bush is more than stupid.
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posted on
06/10/2005 4:01:49 PM PDT
by
bill1952
("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
To: spinestein
Yea, I heard that part. Surprised me that the editors of the story at NPR decided to include it!!!
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posted on
06/10/2005 4:07:22 PM PDT
by
Murtyo
To: Murtyo
What do you expect when their version of "conservative" is Olympia Snow and Susan Collins?
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posted on
06/10/2005 4:11:22 PM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
To: Murtyo
Is Maine a red state or a blue state?
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posted on
06/10/2005 4:11:47 PM PDT
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Leftists would have no standards at all)
To: PubliusEXMachina; Shortwave
Thanks for the pointers. Northern states in winter time remind me of Russia, that's why I like it. I remember long winters in Vermont and Maine a few years back, it's so cold just like Siberia. Maine really needs to get itself straight, it is such a beautiful land, otherwise they will loose to the competitions, to a place like Nova Scotia for example. Cape Breton area is a nice land as well.
To: Texas Eagle
Is Maine a red state or a blue state? Blue.
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posted on
06/10/2005 4:30:45 PM PDT
by
Skylab
To: spinestein
Now. Now. Let's be sensitive here. You really can't spend a lot of time on local politics when you're busy keeping up with American Idol, Brad Pitt & chick of the week, and time with the environmental global warming group.
Besides, you don't want them to wait 8 or more hours to vote,do you?
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posted on
06/10/2005 4:32:58 PM PDT
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
To: Skylab
Screw 'em then. They can all move to Nova Scotia for all I care.
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posted on
06/10/2005 4:34:50 PM PDT
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Leftists would have no standards at all)
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