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One Reporter's Opinion – Never Legalize Pot!
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| Friday, June 10, 2005
| Gearge Putnam
Posted on 06/10/2005 2:32:31 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: A CA Guy
Hate to bust your buzz, but
ROFL!
I don't know why, but I really thought you were going to come up with one I haven't refuted here on FR yet. Excuse me if I don't put up all the links and references I have done so many times, but if you use search here on FR you can copy the dozens of sources I have used.
The Schizo page you linked gives advice to those who already have or are carrying the gene for Schizophrenia. This page references Dr. Pat McGorry at the University of Melbourne. McGorry's work has been refuted by nearly every legitimate scientist here and in Austrailia. My favorite is John P. Morgan a physician and professor of pharmacology at the CUNY Medical School. You can find a great refutation of McGorry's baloney in the book: "Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts" by professors Lynn Zimmer and John Morgan...Real scientists.
McGory can not produce any data to back up his claims. His reference to the New Zealand study turns out to be a religious school where Bible study students went around asking other kids about pot. This is not science!
If we continue with the page we find that all of the data on the website is compiled from patient records of those who have schizophrenia or whose parents have schizophrenia. According to the data on the site, for those who are already at risk of a schizophrenic episode, marijuana can increase the chance of an episode. So can alcohol, cocaine, nicotine, coffee, tea and chocolate.
Living in a dysfunctional family increases your chances of an episode. Living in the country decreases your chances over living in a city.
On the website they use baloney like "increases chances" 3X 5X and 15X, but when you go to the references they cite, you find 3% 5% and 1.5%. Marijuana is 1.5%...same as chocolate. The percentages should give you a clue. They are statiscally insignificant.
You will also find when you check their references:
"Schizophrenia can sometimes be triggered by heavy use of hallucinogenic drugs, especially LSD; but it appears that one has to have a predisposition towards developing schizophrenia for this to occur"
Every single reference they use turns out to say that you have to be predisposed to have a schizophrenic episode.
FACT: If your parents do not have schizophrenia, you will never have a schizophrenic episode no matter what drugs you use. Schizophrenia is genetic. You inherit it from your parents. There is no substance known to man that will cause schizophrenia!
You'll have to do better than this ancient piece of propaganda to bust my buzz!
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posted on
06/10/2005 10:24:56 PM PDT
by
mugs99
To: Nachum
Is there anyone on FreeRepublic.com who admits to smoking pot (more than once), who also agrees it is dangerous and should be illegal to all people?
I want to meet that czar.
To: LAURENTIJ
I do, all the people I knew that went on pot turned into lazy ass loser pizza drivers
ROFL!
Is Bill Gates delivering pizza?
Maybe the people you were hanging with were lazy ass losers even without pot!
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103
posted on
06/10/2005 10:30:09 PM PDT
by
mugs99
To: A CA Guy
The sick Criminals in all the corners of the world agree with you. Nothing makes it worthwhile when all the cash ends up in the hands of a bunch of Creeps.
Why do you ignore all the more dangerous drugs that kill more children and innocent people than pot ever did? Do really have any idea how full of Sheet the Government is about illegal drugs?
I for one would make pot legal and collapse thousand if not millions of dealers, smugglers , and terrorists around the world. I would use all the money to help the abused children of alcoholic parents for starters.
The money saved by law enforcement , the Court system, Lawyers, Incarceration, would be huge. The benefits out weigh all the pro illegal arguments hands down. gee all the people that are getting stoned ALREADY now pay the US Government to do instead of Poppy down on Clinton Ave.
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posted on
06/10/2005 10:31:15 PM PDT
by
Afronaut
(America is for Americans, but not anymore)
To: mugs99
105
posted on
06/10/2005 10:33:34 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: mugs99
106
posted on
06/10/2005 10:34:19 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: Afronaut
Marijuana is total crap and is best left alone for everyone's sake. It isn't worth your life.
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posted on
06/10/2005 10:35:48 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: A CA Guy
I choose not to smoke it. But why the billions spent go into the hands of scum instead of others is the mystery.
Do you agree the War on Drug is the single biggest waste of money in the history of this country?
108
posted on
06/10/2005 11:03:16 PM PDT
by
Afronaut
(America is for Americans, but not anymore)
To: Afronaut
109
posted on
06/10/2005 11:05:06 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: mugs99
To: A CA Guy
Only those that abuse alcohol are trouble. Marijuana is much, much safer than alcohol. This is an indisputable scientific fact.
Alcohol kills tens of thousands of people each year. It kills them quickly, with alcohol poisoning. It kills them slowly, with liver cirrhosis, heart failure and cancer. Of all the poisons known to man, it is one of only twenty-five or thirty which is unquestionably proven to cause birth defects.
Marijuana never -- never-- killed anyone by overdose, and far fewer than alcohol in car wrecks. I'd drive a thousand miles with a pot-head at the wheel before I'd go around the block with a staggering drunk. The same is true of crimes of violence; there's simply no comparison between a whacked out pot head watching TV and eating Pringles by the can, versus a mean drunk looking for a fight in a bar.
If alcohol had just been discovered, busybodies of your ilk would be clamoring for it to be treated as a Schedule I drug, with lengthy prison sentences for mere possession.
I think free men ought to be allowed to destroy themselves by whatever means they see fit, and that the health of this nation would be substantially improved by a switch from alcohol to marijuana. Anybody who can argue that alcohol should be legal and marijuana should not, is an IDIOT and no true conservative.
--ccm
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posted on
06/11/2005 12:28:28 AM PDT
by
ccmay
(Question Diversity)
To: LAURENTIJ
Just remember all these pro-pot people are pathetic users. Don't let it get to you. They can't quit, pity them. You, sir, are a G**-damned liar.
-ccm
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posted on
06/11/2005 12:30:21 AM PDT
by
ccmay
(Question Diversity)
To: RightWhale
"Recent research indicates a correlation between frequent marijuana use and aggressive or violent behavior"
In my experience, they were always quite mellow.
To: A CA Guy
They concluded that regular marijuana use led to educational failure and unemployment, which could increase the risk of depression. What an excellent argument for getting rid of zero-tolerance policies in our schools, and putting an end to prison sentences for harmless pot-heads.
The War on Drugs is more dangerous to America than the drugs themselves. Anybody who supports drug criminalization is a traitor to the American way of life. You are simply not a conservative if you support the War on Drugs as it currently exists. You are a statist and a fool, certainly, but you are no conservative.
-ccm
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posted on
06/11/2005 12:37:30 AM PDT
by
ccmay
(Question Diversity)
To: ccmay
Only abuse of alcohol is a problem, not all alcohol use is bad at all, matter of fact it's food purification benefits go back to the Bible itself.
Your stick about pot though is best directed towards DU or addicts, the rest won't buy your hype.
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posted on
06/11/2005 1:07:37 AM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: ccmay
How defensive and paranoid of you...
To: ccmay
You pro addiction lackys are too much with the far out things you like to post. Check out DU for similar posts to yours all over the place.
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posted on
06/11/2005 1:11:38 AM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: ccmay
You ranting and anger seem to betray your own pot user descriptions... Funny how angry users are. Depressed. Schizophrenic.
To: ccmay
Oh, see my 110 btw.. A true democrat/liberal position you take.
To: LAURENTIJ
These are all illegal drug activists here to spam FR with their stupidity.
You can do a search on google for DU+marijuana and get the same word for word gibberish over there by the same crowd.
These folks are so desperate for their drugs that they are playing both sides in desperate hope of influence.
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posted on
06/11/2005 1:14:26 AM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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