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EU crisis deepens as France and Germany gang up on Britain
AFP ^ | 06/10/05

Posted on 06/10/2005 11:54:27 AM PDT by nypokerface

PARIS (AFP) - A crisis in the European Union sparked by French and Dutch voters' rejections of the EU's constitution worsened when France and Germany ganged up on Britain ahead of an important summit next week meant to reorganise the bloc's budget for 2007-2013.

French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, meeting together in Paris, told a joint news conference they wanted Britain to give up a hard-won five-billion-euro (six-billion-dollar) annual rebate it gets from the EU budget -- something British Prime Minister Tony Blair has bluntly and repeatedly ruled out.

"Above all our British friends must recognise how things have changed and the need for greater equity in the financial charges that each country bears," Chirac said.

The two leaders, representing the Franco-German axis that has long driven the European project, also urged the process of ratifying the moribund constitution to continue, despite the two referendum defeats that theoretically kill it off and Blair's decision to suspend a plebiscite on the charter next year.

"We are both in agreement in reaffirming how much the European Union... needs above all to unite and to reflect," Chirac said.

Schroeder, at his side, said it was "premature" to consider the EU constitution a dead letter.

France and Germany's forceful and shared stance, and Britain's refusal to yield set the scene for a dramatic summit of EU heads of state and government in Brussels next Thursday and Friday.

The atmosphere was expected to be especially tense between Chirac and Blair, whose usually polite relationship has degenerated into acrimony at times in the past over EU matters.

Chirac said the EU rebate Britain won in 1984 after tough negotiations by then-prime minister Margaret Thatcher was "now old".

He said each EU state "must make an effort" so that the union's financial problems do not exacerbate the political ones revealed by the resistance to the EU constitution.

But British Prime Minister Tony Blair has refused to give way, calling instead for a "fundamental review" of EU spending -- implied to mean a revision of costly EU agricultural subsidies from which French farmers greatly benefit.

The French president, whose authority at home has been enormously weakened by his country's rejection of the EU charter, countered by saying he would not overturn a deal he and Schroeder struck in 2002 to keep the agricultural subsidy system intact until 2013.

"Everyone must pay his share... but I am not prepared to compromise" on the EU Common Agriculture Policy, he said.

Schroeder did hold out the promise that France and Germany were ready to make a unspecified, "constructive compromise" at the summit.

It was the leaders' second get-together in the wake of French and Dutch rejection of the EU charter in the past two weeks.

A former European commissioner, British parliamentarian Neil Kinnock, accused Chirac of using the row over the British budget rebate as a diversion from his own problems over the EU constitution.

"Chirac playing these diversionary games simply adds to the discredit," said Kinnock, who is a member of Blair's Labour Party.

Commentators noted that Chirac and Schroeder will be going into the summit severely weakened.

Chirac faces a lame-duck presidency to the end of his mandate in 2007 because of the referendum debacle, while various electoral defeats in Germany have left Schroeder with little prospect of holding on to power in polls next year.

On the other hand, Blair last month won a third mandate and is governing one of the rare vibrant economies among the major EU members.

A veto from him would scuttle the summit and delay EU budget decision to early next year.

"Tony Blair may not have the intention of ruining the European summit. But he has the power to do so. That's his strength," the French newspaper Le Figaro said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 06/10/2005 11:54:27 AM PDT by nypokerface
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To: MadIvan; RobFromGa

FYI and comments!:)


2 posted on 06/10/2005 11:57:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: nypokerface

Chirac and Schroeder about to take their rightful place in the dustbin of history. Sch-weet!


3 posted on 06/10/2005 11:58:14 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: nypokerface
A former European commissioner, British parliamentarian Neil Kinnock, accused Chirac of using the row over the British budget rebate as a diversion from his own problems over the EU constitution.

Chirac got spanked by the French voters. It will take a lot to create a diversion, but nice try.

4 posted on 06/10/2005 11:59:29 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: nypokerface

Each actor will fulfill his appointed part.

There will be no surprises.


5 posted on 06/10/2005 11:59:58 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Grampa Dave

Bastards. I have been monitoring sites such as the "Have Your Say" area on the BBC News site, which is not noted for being right wing - the vast majority want to tell Jacques to drop dead.

The Germans and French will have to attempt an invasion to make us cough up for their stupidity. I don't think they have sufficient testicular fortitude to even contemplate it.

Regards, Ivan


6 posted on 06/10/2005 12:00:24 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: nypokerface

It's Bush's fault. Then Blair's. Then, well everyone but Chirac.


7 posted on 06/10/2005 12:01:07 PM PDT by DOGEY
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To: nypokerface

Chirac is a dinosaur lingering on way past being irrelevent and worthless.


8 posted on 06/10/2005 12:01:24 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

As I get older, I appreciate my father's wisdom more and more. As his job required him to deal with bureaucrats of various governments throughout the world, i asked him what was the most stupid government he'd dealt with.

Without hesitation, he said "The French."

Quite right.

Regards, Ivan


9 posted on 06/10/2005 12:03:26 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan

My Father-in-Law fought in WW2. He grew up in segerated South here in US and I never heard him say anything bad or racist about any group of people other than the French. He always called them FROGS. When I asked him why, he just said "Because that's what they are".

You would have to have known him to know how bad this was coming from him. Like I said, he never talked bad about anyone.


10 posted on 06/10/2005 12:08:02 PM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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To: Grampa Dave
He said each EU state "must make an effort" so that the union's financial problems do not exacerbate the political ones revealed by the resistance to the EU constitution.

The citizens have told us that they do not want this EU to happen-- but that will not prevent us from taking their money.

11 posted on 06/10/2005 12:11:15 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: nypokerface

For many months now the French and Germans economy has been in decline! The reason for their treachery in the UN was to cover their double dealings in the Oil for Food scam. Those funds helped to keep the French and German economies alive.

Now those funds are no longer coming in to support their socialist theories and policies. They have been, for the last 2 years and going on 3, in violation of the EU guidelines for economic prosperity.

Hefty fines for being in violation of these econmic Guidelines have been waived for France and Germany during this period. The other have had to anti-up and pay their fines to Brussels.

With the no votes from France and the Dutch the EU Constitution is going in the TANK along with the French and German economies. There are already cries to return to their individual monies and to nix the Euro.

This is just like the French and the Germans. The Brits would be better served by dropping from the EU and maintaining their soverignity. When in history has any deals with the French ever been good for England?? Or even the Germans for that matter!


12 posted on 06/10/2005 12:12:14 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: 26lemoncharlie

I think that if President Bush phoned the Prime Minister and said, "If all else fails, we'll let you in to NAFTA", that would help decision makers here.

I would rather we dealt with you than dealt with the French and Belgians.

Regards, Ivan


13 posted on 06/10/2005 12:14:13 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan
i asked him what was the most stupid government he'd dealt with. Without hesitation, he said "The French."

That would be a large part of why the best equipped Army in the world gave up with a token fight when it was invaded...and why most of the country never even had to be invaded.

14 posted on 06/10/2005 12:19:14 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Grampa Dave

"Above all our British friends must recognise how things have changed and the need for greater equity in the financial charges that each country bears," Chirac said.


This is a line right out of Atlas Shrugged. Ayn Rand was right! The EU is going down!


15 posted on 06/10/2005 12:19:40 PM PDT by Nexus974
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To: lepton

My father says that the French government has almost pathological behaviour - it does things uniquely for fear of any imitation of practices elsewhere. They believe that being unique, makes them ascendant - to adopt practices from Britain and America, no matter how reasoned, merited or logical - is anathema.

Regards, Ivan


16 posted on 06/10/2005 12:21:10 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan
The Germans and French will have to attempt an invasion to make us cough up for their stupidity. I don't think they have sufficient testicular fortitude to even contemplate it.

But they don't need as much now that they can invade by train.

17 posted on 06/10/2005 12:21:18 PM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: skeeter

If the train is working that day. Plus they have to get past the invasion of British tourists who've gone to stock up on beer at French hypermarkets.

Regards, Ivan


18 posted on 06/10/2005 12:22:09 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan
America bashing hasn't saved Chirac and Shroeder. I guess they think they'll have more luck with Britbashing.
19 posted on 06/10/2005 12:23:28 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: colorado tanker

They're making a mistake. All it's done is rally the public around the Prime Minister and make us despise the EU even more.

Regards, Ivan


20 posted on 06/10/2005 12:24:24 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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