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To: Your Nightmare

No one except you ever claimed that the FairTax ever included or "dealt" with evasion (avoidance is a different thing) except, perhaps, you, making up your straw man that it didn't so was somehow faulty. The IT "deals" with evasion the same way as the FairTax - by not including it.

Posting all that trash about where it's data came from is a HUGE waste of bandwidth. It would really be funny if it did contain data about evasion hidden away in some nook and cranny. Hoewever no one cares enough to even research that - and it's not the point in any event.

Point is, moron, that the greatly higher rate structure of the IT encourages evasion far more than the lower FairTax rate ... and that's precisely what I illustrated in #1114 just above. You may not be capable of reading it but others certainly will be.


1,132 posted on 06/13/2005 7:21:13 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog; Your Nightmare
Point is, moron, that the greatly higher rate structure of the IT encourages evasion far more than the lower FairTax rate ... and that's precisely what I illustrated in #1114 just above. You may not be capable of reading it but others certainly will be.

pd, you are right. The evasion issue should be a non-starter for these guys but they hang on to it like a twig on a cliff. For pete's sake, in most instances it takes two people to evade the fair tax. If we tweak the law a bit, making a business license something more important than it is now and putting an onus on sellers that they have to check those licenses, the evasion issue will be almost moot compared to what we have now.

1,134 posted on 06/13/2005 7:40:22 PM PDT by groanup (our children sleep soundly, thank-you armed forces)
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To: pigdog
Easy to follow - the fair tax rate assumes the same evasion will take place - although the catalysts to cheating are reduced by the fair tax - so cheating may decrease - but there is no decrease projected in the rate.

Everyone reading the thread gets that.

THe maximum marginal rate is 23%. That's much lower than the income tax...flat or graduated.

The fair tax is simple and easy to comply with. The income tax - either flat or graduated - is arbitrary and nonsensical, confusing and very difficult to understand.

The fair tax is fair, treats all legal residents the same. As for illegals, they always pay the maximum rate. THe income tax is obviously not viewed as fair by anyone.

Lower marginal rates, easy to understand, and fair.... the 3 components most affecting tax cheating.

It's also harder to get away with cheating under the fair tax.

But it's been amusing watching someone try to put forth the idea that the rate is too low b/c the calculation of rate did not take evasion into account. We all know it does - it expects the same amount of evasion as we're experiencing now.

Odd though at times the income tax fanatic marxist kool aid drinking income taxers swear up and down that the rate is too high... and later on the thread they swear up and down the rate is too low.

It's pretty funny to watch them melt.

They must be really worried about the end of their socialist tool. ANd some are worried that they'll actually have to start paying their fair share of our nation's tax burden.

The thing that scares them most is that the millions of people backing the nrst will not stop until the income tax is gone. It doesn't matter if it takes another 11 years - or 11 more. The number of people signing on is ever increasing.

Pass the kleenex to the socialists.

1,138 posted on 06/13/2005 7:49:58 PM PDT by Principled
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To: pigdog; Always Right
Point is, moron, that the greatly higher rate structure of the IT encourages evasion far more than the lower FairTax rate
Point is, moron, that one of the reasons the IT rate structure is greatly higher is that it factors in evasion and avoidance. If the FairTax rate factored in the level of evasion and avoidance that could be expected, it's rate would be greatly higher. Get it?
1,152 posted on 06/14/2005 4:06:00 AM PDT by Your Nightmare (::tick:: ::tick:: ::tick::)
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