Posted on 06/10/2005 10:06:07 AM PDT by blonkey
Wasn't McCain part of the Keating 5? who let the S&L indusry get plundered for a few hundred k$ in campaign contributions? I wonder why the press isn't all over this.
mcCain was involved in the Keating 5 , but the Press has releases him from his past.
He is one of their good guys.
exactly so if Schanberg is dissing Kerry you'd think the lefties or liberal press if not the conservative press would have picked up on this, because then again not like the lefties would care if a bunch of POWs were abandoned...
Yess!! Thanks Cal!!!! :)
Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)
Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal."
http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm#keating
I've just figured it out, the VC did manage to brainwash McCain, maybe they implanted a chip in his brain, LOL
they didn't even have to bother with a chip for Kerry
I was just re-reading the Dick Cavett debate between Kerry and O Neill, how anyone can think Kerry won especially in hindsight is amazing..
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040510083458318
my fav exchange is when Cavett mentions if a US withdrawal will result in a bloodbath and O Neill says if it is premature and not done carefully there will indeed be a bloodbath and Kerry pooh poohs that assertion :
MR. KERRY: The true fact of the matter is, Dick, that there's absolutely no guarantee that there would be a bloodbath. There's no guarantee that there wouldn't. One has to, obviously, conjecture on this. However, I think the arguments clearly indicate that there probably wouldn't be.
First of all, if you read back historically, in 1950 the French made statements – there was a speech made by, I think it was General LeClerc, that if they pulled out, France pulled out, then there would be a bloodbath. That wasn't a bloodbath. The same for Algeria. There hasn't been.
I think that it's really kind of a baiting argument. There is no interest on the part of the North Vietnamese to try to massacre the people once people have agreed to withdraw. There's just no pur- –[purpose] wrong John boy, wrong!!!
in fact ironic given this thread, they are arguing about prisoners of war as well and you can see O Neill cares more than Kerry about the band of brothers, IMO
URL of notes: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1409261/posts?page=13#13
Additional URL at the end of that post of notes too.
Also, make sure you bookmark that Jane Fonda LONG thread I pinged you too. It references McCain and more will be coming out about that connection.
When McCain announced he was running for Pres in the 2000 election, a veteran friend of mine swore he'd never vote for him because of the POW/MIA thing. Whatever Schanberg is, he's not making this up. A couple of his articles on the same subject were posted on FR before: Here's one: Senator Covered Up Evidence of P.O.W.'s Left Behind. The crushkerry site referred to Schanberg, and the SwiftVets take him seriously.
Thank you again Calpernia...
*deep curtsey*
You do good work! :)
Now that everyone feels sorry for him being a POW, which I do too, we need to get him to explain this.
http://www.namvets.com/Reading/john_mccain_is_no_war_hero.htm
(SNIP)
For years, I was confused by his actions with respect to this issue. He would oppose any POW/MIA related piece of legislation, including the recent Missing Personnel Act, and the bill I sponsored through Fred Upton, the POW/MIA Rescue Act, which would have granted political asylum to any southeast Asian national who brought a living American POW to freedom.
Why would anyone oppose such a bill ... particularly a former POW?
He disagreed with the findings of the 1990 Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which concluded that our government had indeed abandoned some of our men when the war ended. '
Then, in 1991, he was appointed to serve on the long-awaited Senate Select Committee, which was created to investigate the entire issue. Chairman John Kerry wanted to appoint him as co-chairman, but this was greeted by a national uproar from the American Legion, and virtually every national veteran's group in existence who were already suspicious of his previous actions.
U.S. Sen, Bob Smith from New Hampshire was chosen instead, a minor victory at the time by POW activists, .
This particular Senate Committee was single-handedly undermined (in my opinion) by the actions of John McCain. During the course of their several month-long investigation, they heard unbelievable testimony from hundreds of people. No less than four former Secretaries of Defense testified that men were left behind. National Security analysts testified that they tracked the movements of our men long after the war ended. Radio transcripts of American POWs being moved in Laos were recorded in the early 1980s:
There were satellite photos of pilot distress signals taken as recently as 1992, complete with pilot name and authenticator code numbers. Former Soviet Commanders testified that they debriefed our men in the Soviet Union, and even Boris Yeltsin admitted American POWs had been transferred there.
No less than four committee investigators provided the Senators of their estimates ranging from a low of 150 to as many as 600 men who they believed were still alive and in captivity. This doesn't even include the testimony they heard behind closed doors that supposedly endangered our national security.
The conclusions of this committee was that "no credible evidence was provided to support the possibility that Americans were still alive and in captivity," This, despite documents from Soviet Archives that showed that the Vietnamese were holding more than 1,200 American POWs, and released less than 600, John McCain signed his name on this incredibly flawed report.
Something happened to him in Nam and it wasn't for the good of our country.
And then, they shredded the records.
~marking~
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