Posted on 06/10/2005 7:49:11 AM PDT by airborne
Bummer. Go Barons! Go Wolfpack! (for next year...)
Who gives two hoots whether it is more popular than football or baseball? American Idol is more popular than both (combined), but I doubt you will sing the praises of that particular show vis-a-vis football.
It is fairly obvious from your posts you don't know much about hockey. Go back to watching "ball 3, just a bit outside. Now it's time to hear from our sponsors ..."
Hi Hockey Ping List FReepers. Back from a great week of vacation on Clearwater Beach. Beat Arlene outta there just in time. Many thanks to airborne for pinging the list in my absence.
Methinks they should just call the rulebook as it stands before widening the ice.
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The Philadephia Phantoms are Calder Cup Champions.
Agreed. Nothing was more boring than North Carolina's 4 Corner stall-ball. I don't think it was an accident that the March Madness really caught on with the public after they brought in the shotclock and 3-pointer in the early 80's.
Hockey needs to get back to where it was in the late 80's and early 90's. It needs to contract 3 teams, Atlanta, Nashville, Phoenix and needs to move Carolina back up to Hartford or contract that one as well.
The reason Tampa gets by is because A) it has won the Cup and B) they tend to be a very good team.
Popularity doesn't equal quality, and the discussion is whether a shot clock would make a better game, it wouldn't. Doing things that are bad for the game might get you a temporary boost in revenue, but eventually it will lead to the game's demise, this is what's happening to basketball right now.
And your original comments were in defense of someone suggesting a shot clock for hockey, this is a hockey thread after all. And they were wrong even when it comes to basketball.
If the shot clock made college ball so big then why is it the NBA, which also has a shot clock, is losing ratings and has dropping revenue? The same thing is in both levels but is apparently only helping one, so obviously it isn't actually helping either. What made college basketball big was two things: it's an incredibly cheap sport to put on, thus every college has a team; rivalries. That's really been the key to college basketball's success, but it's starting to slip. It held on longer than the NBA because fundamentals were still a part of the game at the college level, but the fundamentals are going away in college too.
The three point shot only helped basketball for a couple of seasons, lately the three point shot hjas MADE basketball a boring endeavor to miss lots of shots from far away. This years NCAA championship featured a team whose bread and butter was the three point shot and they MISSED 75% of them, that's what the 3 pointer has done to the game made "good" teams miss the majority of their shots. And the saddest part was watching these guys be completely incapable of working the ball down low, because all they did all game was miss 3 pointers they had no idea how to pass to the key for a lay up, couldn't dribble in traffic, heck these guys even sucked from the freethrow line... when you get right down to it you had an entire basketball team that couldn't play basketball vying for the championship of their level. That is what your precious 3 point line has wrought, low skills.
Wrong again, certainly the thugs aren't helping the NBA but most fans don't pay attention to what goes on off the field, they care about what happens between the line. And between the lines in the NBA is exactly what we saw in the NCAA championship this year, only it's every team and has been every team for over a decade. An entire basketball league where no one knows how to play basketball. Basketball has become a game of missed shots from various lines, and showboating dunks that get on SportsCenter, and the three point line is one of the primary causes.
Just about any sport is more fun to watch than any level of basketball today, because at least in all the other sports the athletes are actually playing THAT sport, nobody with a TV contract actually plays basketball anymore. Though I understand there's still some amazing 2-on-2 being played in various parks in New York.
Problem with this idea is it came a decade and change too late. They should have decided on this BEFORE the wave of expansion and new rinks. If they'd made this call in the early 90s most of the league would be playing on the bigger surface already, instead it'll be a solid 20 or 30 years before a rule like this really takes effect (ie more than half the teams).
Starting about the late 80s, teams started employing the "neutral trap" style of play and the games became stifling and boring to watch. I last saw a Bruins game around 1998 and it was a 3-1 yawnfest. For most of the game, the players clutched and grabbed each other in the neutral zone and there was a gazillion offsides and icing calls. Everytime you thought there might be a 2 on 1 or a breakaway, the referee would be sure to whistle the play dead.
I think opening up the game by letting the red line be the line to hold instead of the blue line is an excellent idea. Not sure about keeping the goalie in the crease and not letting him handle the puck but as another poster said, goalies should be fair game for checking once they leave that crease.
Because the league is full of gangsta wannabes. Nobody wants to watch that crap. Listen. I'm bored with this discussion. You care about it far more than I do. I was merely making a passing comment which you have turned into a Senate confirmation hearing. As I said before. Relax.
I'd like goalies gear to go back to the size they were in 1980. IIRC, they've already agreed to reduce the size of leg pads by 1 inch. Not much, but a step in the right direction
Expansion, too much, too fast, is what the deep rooted problem is. Watering down the product and stretching it too thin.
These guys in R&D are just killing time, trying to look busy!
IMHO hockey doesn't get exciting until both teams are playing down a player apiece. Better two.
Really opens up the game.
I don't know if I'd like it or not, but I'd sure like to watch it to find out!
It's pretty fast, and fun to watch!
Break out the Champagne and put the brooms away.....The Phantoms SWEEP Chicago in 4 straight. The largest crowd in AHL history (20,103) goes crazy!!!
Can you spell C H A M P I O N S ??? YES!!!
There is a party at the Wachovia on Monday night I do believe.
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Outstanding!
Got half of it right, they are all wanabes, wanabe basketball players that don't know how to play the game anymore. Since the three point line went in place scoring has dropped, shot percentage has dropped, passing accuracy has dropped, rebounding has dropped. The three point line has destroyed the game.
I'm as relaxed as you are wrong, that would be 100%. You made a two passing statements which were demonstrably and obviously false on their face and I'm pointing it out, it is a discussion board we do get to respond to people. I haven't turned anything into anything. I'm simply pointing out that you are wrong, the shot clock and the three point line have NOT been good for the game of basketball, they've destroyed the NBA and are in the process of destroying college ball. And the stats of the games prove it, everything about the game, including revenue, is DOWN since the institution of both.
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