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Senate confirms Griffin to 6th Circuit Court of Appeals
AP ^ | 6/9/05 | AP

Posted on 06/09/2005 3:48:40 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Senate confirmed Richard Griffin of Michigan to the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday, ending a nomination process that was mired in a lengthy fight over President Bush's judicial appointments.

The Senate was expected to approve the nomination of David McKeague of Michigan to the court later Thursday.

Griffin, a Michigan Court of Appeals judge from Traverse City, won overwhelming approval to the Cincinnati-based court. McKeague, a U.S. District Court judge from East Lansing, was expected to sail through confirmation.

Michigan Democrats Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow, who had opposed the nominations because of holdups to two judicial appointments during President Clinton's administration, offered their endorsement of the judges.

"We support moving on with these two nominations. We hope that in doing so, it may produce some bipartisanship and compromise," Levin said.

Stabenow said both judges had "distinguished" legal careers and expressed hope that moving forward would help restore "comity and civility to the judicial nominations process."

McKeague has been awaiting confirmation since late 2001, while Griffin's nomination has been stalled since mid-2002. They were renominated by Bush on Feb. 14.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; confirmation; judicialnominees; richardgriffin
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To: My2Cents

You are correct!!! When Boxer whines, I sit back and love every minute of it!!! lol


21 posted on 06/09/2005 5:27:08 PM PDT by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: LS
But, but, but . . . I thought we "lost" in this. Rush keeps saying so.

The test will come when the Democrats mount a filibuster.

If the GOP doesn't respond -- effectively -- we will have lost.

22 posted on 06/09/2005 5:27:24 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: LS
You are being far too logical.

After all getting these Judges confirmed is not 'that' important to some here on FR

23 posted on 06/09/2005 5:28:28 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Michigan Democrats Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow, who had opposed the nominations because of holdups to two judicial appointments during President Clinton's administration, offered their endorsement of the judges. Stabenow said both judges had "distinguished" legal careers

In other words, we democraps say screw Michigan if we can't get our way. Now that our butts are on the line and we are up for reelection, we approve this nomination........

I absolutely HATE those two Ba$^^rds.........

24 posted on 06/09/2005 5:29:46 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: LS
but the following must be observed:

if this senate fails to invoke the option, and then the GOP loses seats at the mid term, and then a SCOTUS seat comes available (another in addition to any that may come available between now and then), then the GOP could lose a golden opportunity.

suppose, for instance, the GOP keeps the majority in the senate, but they lose the necessary votes to invoke the option. then they will wish they invoked it when they had the chance.

25 posted on 06/09/2005 5:32:55 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: LS

You win elections, you win nominations. If you don't think it has ALWAYS been that way, then what is normal?


26 posted on 06/09/2005 5:40:04 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (http://hour9.blogspot.com/)
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To: okie01

Let me ask you this: what if all Bush's judges, plus Bolton got confirmed, but the filibuster held. Who would win? I'd say, we did. The filibuster is irrelevant. It's like arguing about some official's call while the other team is scoring a basket.


27 posted on 06/09/2005 5:46:39 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: tame
THAT is absolutely true, and if that happens, then we screwed up.

But if you saw the thread here on FR earlier, regarding 06 senate seats, we are more likely to gain FIVE senate seats, making the so-called "moderates" even less important. In politics, you always take risks.

There was NO, I repeat, NO clear evidence that we had the 60 votes to break the filibuster. There were a lot of hints and "impressions" and "I think sos," but NO CLEAR VOTE COUNT. Given that, this is exactly the right way to go.

28 posted on 06/09/2005 5:48:34 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It doesn't matter WHAT has "always been." Politics constantly changes, and you must adapt. The only goal is to win, whether you have to "compromise" or bludgeon. We still have the bludgeon, too. But right now, we're winning without it. It's like having a trick play on a football team---why roll out the end-around when you don't need it?

Walt Frazier, the great NY Knick guard, used to say that he knew he could steal the ball from the guy he was guarding at any time in the game, but he didn't, because he knew that if the game was close, he might HAVE to steal the ball.

Pressing the "moderates" to vote up or down on the filibuster MIGHT have broken the filibuster---or might not, and it might have pushed some of the "moderates" (for their own political survival in liberal states) to vote against it. By appearing "concilatory," they can get some props for their home elections and still have the option to vote against the filibuster if, after appearing "conciliatory," the Dems still screwed them.

29 posted on 06/09/2005 5:52:20 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS

I'm waiting for Bush to appoint Jesse Jackson to the UN Human Rights Panel in trade for Bolton as ambassador.

What a TRADE!!


30 posted on 06/09/2005 5:52:39 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Murderous Tyrants are NOT the Answer)
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To: LS
...this is exactly the right way to go.

i still think the option should be invoked before the midterm (preferable after the time the rats decide to battle, of course).

i pray we lose SCOTUS leftists between now and then. that would really help us see what we're up against.

31 posted on 06/09/2005 5:58:28 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: LS
Well, I don't want to carry the football analogy too far.

You are correct in that at this moment the judges are the issue. But, the principle of the duly elected majority asserting their power is not crap. Negotiating with a sure loser is laying the foundation for more trouble at a later time.

The confirmation of 3 judges after 5 years in the majority is hardly anything to crow about. In truth, it says a great deal more about republicans than it does dimocrats.

The real issue is will the majority continue to [unnecessarily] allow the minority to dictate terms on every executive appointment, judicial or otherwise. At the current pace it will take 30 years in the majority for an appreciable dent to be put in the liberal activisim of the federal judiciary via conservative replacements/appointments.

I submit that we don't have that much time [if we seriously want to change the direction of this country], and it is wishful thinking to believe that we will maintain a majority position for that long, anyway.
32 posted on 06/09/2005 5:59:14 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: LS
Let me ask you this: what if all Bush's judges, plus Bolton got confirmed, but the filibuster held. Who would win? I'd say, we did.

As far as that goes, I would agree.

The filibuster is irrelevant.

I'm not so sure about that. Allowed to stand, it becomes enshrined in Senate procedure. At bottom, however, it strikes me as unconstitutional in its effect.

Consequently, it would best be ashcanned as a valid parliamentary weapon in the case of executive nominees.


33 posted on 06/09/2005 6:27:14 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: LS
It doesn't matter WHAT has "always been." Politics constantly changes, and you must adapt.

How does one argue with that mindset? It could not have been stated more ardently by a liberal. I urge you to fight for your convictions. Adapt on!

34 posted on 06/09/2005 6:28:05 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (http://hour9.blogspot.com/)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

But it's not "three judges out of five." It's dozens (hundreds?) of judges who have already (quietly) been confirmed, and only these few were in doubt. Is a higher percentage than Clinton? Barely. Is it common to have some justices held up? Yeah---perhaps not this many, but some. It is all irrelevant. "principles" fade with the next election. I agree we have a limited time to do this, but I think that period goes up to the first few months of 2007. By then, I think we'll have two new USSC justices, all 10 of the nominees, and virtually everything else Bush wants.


35 posted on 06/09/2005 6:29:02 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS

I hope you are correct. But remember, simply having a republican appoint two SC judges alone is not a victory in itself. They must genuinely support the constitution as it is written. Didn't Reagan appoint Sandra Day? Do you want two more like she is? I don't.


36 posted on 06/09/2005 6:43:52 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s; Liz
I hope you are correct.

Today Bush has the lowest percentage by far and away. The comparison is made by not taking into account anything other than lower court appointments. One must consider the likes of Ginsberg who was approved without hesitation by the conservatives. Statements such as it's common to have these people held back are inane. check Ruth's background before she was voted on and tell me she isn't as far left as one could possible imagine.

37 posted on 06/09/2005 7:15:20 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (http://hour9.blogspot.com/)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Absolutely right. It's a crapshoot. But in a sense, that's why it's all the more important to see this as an overwhelming victory, because of the 95% of the judges Bush has already appointed that were NOT challenged. Say 10% of them end up being "O'Connor's" and 20% of the supposed "safe" or "moderate" judges end up being Scalias?


38 posted on 06/10/2005 4:35:17 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

As I recall, didn't Clinton name a couple of other people before Ginsberg, but they backed out early?


39 posted on 06/10/2005 4:35:59 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS
Dallas once scored seven field goals on MNF to beat the Iggles.

He was on my fantasy football team, and I was down 20 going into the game. Pulled out a one point win.

40 posted on 06/10/2005 4:41:34 AM PDT by Always Right
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