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Philadelphia schools to require African, black history
Associated Press ^ | 06/09/2005 | Maryclaire Dale

Posted on 06/09/2005 1:59:34 PM PDT by americaprd

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To: Centurion2000; Spok
James Sullivan, a senior, learned the bittersweet news that his maternal family descends from the Ibo tribe in Nigeria, and that they came to the U.S. as slaves.

How is this bittersweet ? He should take a long hard look at that country and ask himself "Should my family have stayed?"

The answer would be, "No."

In the 1968, a genocide of over 1 million Ibo's took place in Nigeria.

"In some areas outside the East... Ibos were killed by local people with at least the acquiescence of the federal forces... 1000 Ibo civilians perished in Benin in this way" (New York Review, 21 December 1967)............. " after the federal take over of Benin... troops killed about 500 Ibo civilians after a house-to-house search" (Washington Morning Post, 27 September, 1967).............. "The greatest single massacre occurred in the Ibo town of Asaba where 700 Ibo male were lined up and shot" (London Observer, 21 January, 1968).............. "Federal troops... killed, or stood by while mobs killed, more than 5000 Ibos in Wari, Sapele, Agbor..." (New York Times, 10th January, 1968)..............Firstly the region between the towns of Benin and Asaba where only widows and orphans remain, Federal troops having for unknown reasons massacred all the men. According to eyewitnesses of that massacre the Nigerian commander ordered the execution of every Ibo male over the age of ten years." ,Le Monde (French Evening newspaper) April 5, 1968.

61 posted on 06/09/2005 5:44:01 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Cecily
What about English-Scottish-Swedish-Americans like me?

Whoa! No way! I'm also English-Scottish-Swedish.

Go figure! ;-)

62 posted on 06/09/2005 5:56:26 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: americaprd

I think this is a good idea. Any idea in the Philly Schools -- they need something.


63 posted on 06/09/2005 5:58:02 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Bogolyubski
As I recall, the Ibo were the folks who tried to break free of Nigeria in the 1970s and form their own nation of Biafra. The predominantly Muslim Nigerian army crushed the attempt with horrific slaughter inflicted upon the Animist and Christian Ibo.

I bet nobody told junior that part.

Speaking of DNA tests for this, I thought it only traced the paternal side, but this article said maternal/Ibo.

64 posted on 06/09/2005 5:58:46 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Swedish or Swensk? English or Ensk? Scottish or Scensk?


65 posted on 06/09/2005 5:59:41 PM PDT by bvw
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To: wardaddy; yarddog
A film for the new curriculum: The Old Negro Space Program
66 posted on 06/09/2005 6:10:41 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: VeniVidiVici

We're a minority! We definitely need a special high school class, and maybe reparations too. Our ancestors probably didn't want to leave Europe either, but were compelled by horrible and unfair circumstances to come over here.


67 posted on 06/09/2005 6:12:13 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: montag813
Perhaps they can also learn how it was the Western Whites who eliminated slavery, first in Britain, and then in America

Western ChristianWhites...such as William Wilberforce in England and Theodore Parker in America.

68 posted on 06/09/2005 7:56:51 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: DocH

Actually, there are very large segments of whites, latinos, and asians in the City. Northeast Philly is overwhelmingly white.


69 posted on 06/09/2005 9:10:15 PM PDT by americaprd
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To: SedVictaCatoni
, there are also a farrago of charlatans who are in the business of inventing "African" history from thin air.

Kwanzaa -- Racist Holiday from Hell

70 posted on 06/09/2005 9:15:49 PM PDT by m87339 (If you could see what a drag it is to see you.)
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To: americaprd

Delaware Valley-bred bump


71 posted on 06/10/2005 6:01:14 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: BadAndy
"Captivated" is probably not a good word to use when talking about Afro-American history.


*Snicker*

72 posted on 06/10/2005 6:12:46 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Se habla, MoFo!")
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To: americaprd

Then why the push for afro studies?


73 posted on 06/10/2005 7:19:15 AM PDT by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: BadAndy
I can't believe they are wasting a year of schoolwork on this nonsense when the majority of kids coming out of those schools can barely write a coherent sentence or do basic math.

I can't believe it either. My view is that most schools offer world history (as an elective!), and that's good. Mandatory PC education? NO! If history beyond American history is mandatory, make it world history so they're not ignorant about why things are happening around the world. Black and African history, if taught right (instead of the "evil white men" angle), would help them understand the troubles in Africa, but only in Africa, and Africa is pretty insignificant these days, having effectively ended after colonialism died.

74 posted on 06/10/2005 7:26:02 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Logically speaking, there is of course as much African history as any other place. The problem, I think, is that there is so little written record.

If you're talking that ancient, it's true. But starting around the 700s there is a wealth of information on Africa. Who here has heard of Mansa Musa, or that Africans actually made it to the Americas long before Columbus (they never came back, so it doesn't matter much to the world). Who knows that when the Dutch went around the horn they actually found extremely rich trading kingdoms, not just natives in loin cloths? Does anybody know the history of the Boer War (think Breaker Morant)?

Unfortunately, there are also a farrago of charlatans who are in the business of inventing "African" history from thin air. (See, for instance, Black Athena.)

I don't know much about the Black Athena debate, but I believe they did have at least one Nubian pharaoh, Tutankhamen. As for the rest, not black. In Somalia, our black soldiers were getting into trouble by trying to identify with the Somalians as fellow blacks, not knowing that Somalians 1) don't consider themselves black, and 2) are often quite racist. I guess a bit of real African history would have helped there. :)

75 posted on 06/10/2005 7:36:05 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Shanda
I remember taking my Daddy's Ecyclopedia Britannica and just reading it. I was surprised how many famous men were from Scotland. A lot of them not famous enough that you would have heard of them but famous because of what they accomplished.

Everybody's heard of Andrew Carnegie, who immigrated here from Scotland with almost nothing. My hometown library was a Carnegie library, along with about 3,000 others. And I'm sure some churches are still using some of the 7,000 organs he paid for.

76 posted on 06/10/2005 7:47:57 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: DuncanWaring

.....so when do they eat each other's hacked body parts? I wonder how is it prepared -- you think boiling (water or oil?), deep frying (a la chicken), or maybe over a fine chianti and a demiglasse?


77 posted on 06/10/2005 11:25:33 AM PDT by aliceburrows ("Well, after this, I should think nothing of falling down stairs")
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To: VeniVidiVici

Hey genius,

You can ONLY do an historical genetic tracing through the maternal genes (has something to do with RNA I believe). Remember that womens have only 1 Y chromosome, while men have 2. Maternal tracing allows you to back-track through that one 1 chromosome (which will also be in her mother and her grandmother and her great grandmother and so on and so on and....)

If you tried to do this through a paternal line, you could only trace back to the father (then you'd have to figure out which of the two grandfathers and then the potential 4 great grandfathers and then the potential 16 great-grandfathers and so on and so on and....)


78 posted on 06/10/2005 11:32:44 AM PDT by aliceburrows ("Well, after this, I should think nothing of falling down stairs")
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To: aliceburrows
I never said anything about "eating" hacked body parts.

Although, now that you mention it, Africa does seem to have somewhat of a history of cannibalism.

No, I don't have recipes.

79 posted on 06/10/2005 11:34:31 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: aliceburrows

Two tests, wise ass. I didn't know so I thought I'd ask.

Thanks for playing.



mtDNA Tests - Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is contained in the cytoplasm of the cell, rather than the nucleus. This type of DNA is passed by a mother to both male and female offspring without any mixing, so your mtDNA is the same as your mother's mtDNA, which is the same as her mother's mtDNA. mtDNA changes very slowly so it cannot determine close relationships as well as it can determine general relatedness. If two people have an exact match in their mtDNA, then there is a very good chance they share a common maternal ancestor, but it is hard to determine if this is a recent ancestor or one who lived hundreds of years ago. It is important to keep in mind with this test that a male's mtDNA comes only from his mother and is not passed on to his offspring.
Example: The DNA tests that identified the bodies of the Romanovs, the Russian imperial family, utilized mtDNA from a sample provided by Prince Philip, who shares the same maternal line from Queen Victoria.


Y Line Tests - More recently, the Y chromosome in the nuclear DNA is being used to establish family ties. The Y chromosomal DNA test (usually referred to as Y DNA or Y-Line DNA) is only available for males, since the Y chromosome is only passed down the male line from father to son. Tiny chemical markers on the Y chromosome create a distinctive pattern, known as a haplotype, that distinguishes one male lineage from another. Shared markers can indicate relatedness between two men, though not the exact degree of the relationship. Y chromosome testing is most often used by individuals with the same last name to learn if they share a common ancestor.


80 posted on 06/10/2005 1:05:54 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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