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Parents protest school fingerprint scans as 'Mark of the Beast' (Tangipahoa Parish, LA)
2theadvocate.com ^ | DEBRA LEMOINE

Posted on 06/09/2005 1:37:46 PM PDT by conserv13

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To: durasell
I can't help but "get all technical" on you, since it is technology. However, I'm not spinning anything. Just pointing out that the "data" in a biometric system can't easily be used to recreate a fingerprint.

I never said it did.

ATM machines. Or that the discount card at a supermarket tracks all of your purchases and that data belongs not to you, but the supermarket which can sell it -- along with your name, address, etc. -- to anyone they please.

I don't use them. I make it a point to stay as far from tracking as I can get.

There are more examples, but I won't bore you with them by getting all technical. The bottomline is, there is very little privacy in the world today.

You don't have to get saucy. I don't agree with biometric systems at school, and you do. Smacks a little too much of big brother for my taste. You may be comfortable with it, but I am not.

61 posted on 06/09/2005 4:53:29 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

It's just another piece of technology. It's morally null. All the morality -- good and bad uses -- depends on who is running it.


62 posted on 06/09/2005 4:56:54 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
This story might interest you. You seem very comfortable with the idea.

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63 posted on 06/09/2005 5:03:22 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: durasell
It's just another piece of technology. It's morally null. All the morality -- good and bad uses -- depends on who is running it.

It seems technology which was created for the good of man, always gets perverted.

64 posted on 06/09/2005 5:05:06 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Read it on the other thread. Dumb idea, the technology adds no value for the store or the consumer. Plus, older people sometimes have a difficult time with biometrics, there's a certain skill level involved in using it correctly.


65 posted on 06/09/2005 5:07:44 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: pbrown

It seems technology which was created for the good of man, always gets perverted.

The world is full of jerks. On the other hand, for under $100 you can get a biometric mouse or keyboard for you home computer. These have proved a great benefit for parents who don't want kids messing in their work files or doctors who want to guard patient confidentiality.

Technology is just a tool, like a gun or a knife. No difference at all -- except in perhaps its scope.


66 posted on 06/09/2005 5:10:18 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
Read it on the other thread. Dumb idea, the technology adds no value for the store or the consumer. Plus, older people sometimes have a difficult time with biometrics, there's a certain skill level involved in using it correctly.

It isn't the technology side that worries me...it's the invasion of privacy. It's the tracking of everything you buy. It's big brother coming to a future near you. That's all I'm saying. It's a way of getting a foot through the door.

Not something this country is supposed to do. We are supposed to rail against big brother...not welcome it with open arms.

67 posted on 06/09/2005 5:13:12 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Big Brother was George Orwell's (real name Eric Blair)invention in the widely misunderstood book 1984. Orwell/Blair was a virulent anti-communist/anti-fascist, a fact that most lefties either forget or didn't know to begin with...he also hated working in an office, the torture room in 1984 had the same number as his office at the BBC where he worked briefly. Anyway, the book is anti-communist manifesto and doesn't really apply to a democracy. Big Bro. wouldn't work in America.


68 posted on 06/09/2005 5:18:46 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
Anyway, the book is anti-communist manifesto and doesn't really apply to a democracy. Big Bro. wouldn't work in America.

Doesn't apply to a democracy...wouldn't work in America. Okay, see ya around the net.

69 posted on 06/09/2005 5:25:02 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

...and Richard Burton's last movie...


70 posted on 06/09/2005 5:26:03 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: verity

Nor I yours. Just the concept of millions damning their souls to Hell is not very funny.


71 posted on 06/09/2005 8:04:32 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
"The Book of Revelation talks of a "mark of the beast," which is a sign those people are damned. Some Christians believe that the fingerprint scanners are close to assigning their children a mark."

This fundamentalist nonsense is what I find amusing.

72 posted on 06/10/2005 5:19:22 AM PDT by verity (A mindset is an antidote to logic.)
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To: verity

I disagree with the person's statement. The mark will be something that someone takes willingly and knowingly. It will be signing allegiance over to the beast. It won't be getting a fingerprint with no strings attached. In other words, one can not by "accident" take the mark.

There are technologies that exist which are being considered for commercial transactions which raise one's eyebrows. "Chipping" "iris scanning" and even to a small extent "fingerprinting", when they are used in conjunction with commerce, set an ugly precedent whereby the government may one day require people to use these alternate methods of payment just to buy food. When that requirement is part of an allegiance to a world leader, you can know the anti-Christ is here.

Until then, as Christians, we should just watch and observe. Point out the implications of the government getting that much information about a person but don't make panicky irrational statements. The mark can not be "assigned". It has to be taken.


73 posted on 06/10/2005 6:03:54 AM PDT by Blogger
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