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To: OB1kNOb

Not yet.

There's a lot of sensationalism out there in regard to immigration. I mean, I live in Houston...but I have yet to see the roving bands of MS-13 gang members killing innocent civilians without mercy.

Granted it's a problem...but you can see the responses right?

First the minutemen bring attention to the problem...then everyone gets hysterical about the issue, which isn't bad because it draws focus to the borders and then action is (maybe slowly) taken...because individuals in the U.S. have the resources and the means to do so.

Such resources, and willingness, are absent in Mexico, Nuevo Laredo, which is why the country (Mexico) is corrupt and almost lawless. People take what they can, when they can in Mexico since there is little honest opportunity...Vicente Fox's fault.

Drudge has something on nearly 1 in 7 Americans is Mexican/Hispanic...my point is, what's the point? It's obvious that 6 in 7 aren't. And again...must countries depend on an influx of immigrants to survive...look at the studies that Euroupe is slowly dying...and their immigration is largely islamofacists. I'll take the Mexicans everyday of the week and twice on Sunday over that.

We need to secure the borders...no doubt, but we need to do so in the right way. We have time before we need to mine the border, dig trenches filled with gas, electrify the razor wire fences, etc...which is what the libs want us to do..so they can point to the administration and say it's creating a facist police state (which is what they want in truth.)


33 posted on 06/09/2005 6:58:22 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Wasn't there recently a big story in Time or Newsweek about the arrival of Latino gangs in the USA, and how they ARE becoming a major problem?


37 posted on 06/09/2005 7:12:38 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: in hoc signo vinces
but I have yet to see the roving bands of MS-13 gang members killing innocent civilians without

So that is your benchmark?

And again...must countries depend on an influx of immigrants to survive...

Really, whatever happened to birthrates?

This problem is more than just Mexico. It's the sheer volume of vastly differing cultures pouring in here. Some of who view it as a reconquest and many of whom have a tradition of voting Left. Not to mention the legality or border issues.

So illegal Mexicans are better than Raghead nutjobs bent on our destruction?...well yea, who could argue with that.

That is not objective justification.

50 posted on 06/09/2005 7:49:52 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: in hoc signo vinces
I live in Houston...but I have yet to see the roving bands of MS-13 gang members killing innocent civilians without mercy.

Go hang around the Bellaire and Hilcroft intersection at night.

You will see more than you bargained for.

54 posted on 06/09/2005 8:10:06 AM PDT by Eaker (Festive camaraderie and adrenaline addiction, with weapons and lots of ammo, leads to no good.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
Good discourse. I agree with everything you say, but for all of our citizens that expect our government to correct the problem "in time" they fail to consider that to do so "in time" requires the government to be proactive rather than reactive to the situation, and IMHO, in the majority of cases the elected officials are reactive in nature, because it's viewed as safer to their future reelection bid or party position (generally).

This issue of mass illegal immigration is not an issue the government can afford to be reactive on (which unfortunately it already is). Otherwise, the USA will find itself years down the road just as western Europe is finding itself today, being infilterated, surrounded and having their national culture replaced with the immigrants culture. IMO.

59 posted on 06/09/2005 8:22:41 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Excrementum Occurum)
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