[ProudVet77]

One more reason to leave MA, even though I don't have kids.
The best thing to do is make the legislature part time, say 1 month a year. Then they couldn't spend all their time writing these stupid laws.

[SteveMcKing]

It's already illegal.

American laws are 90% willingness to arrest and press charges. Doesn't really matter what the charges are.

[NathanDahlin]

For a second there, I misread this thread title as "Spanking Illegals In Massachusetts" and thought to myself, that might actually work!

[NicknamedBob]

Discipline is love. Children always seek the limits of what they are allowed to do.

If there are no limits, then what kind of chidren would we have? Sadly, I think we know.

[Almondjoy]

I have a child who said.. you can't do that to me or you'll be arrested. For giving a quick swat on the behind with his pants on?

The child was 6.

So don't they understand they are empowering children basically to cry wolf? To avoid punishment?

It's just insane.

[konaice]

So we watch every week about people refusing to stop for police necessitating the shutting down of entire freeway systems, and others thinking they can attack police officers at will just because they find it inconvenient to get a traffic ticket.

These are people who never learned limits in their youth and continue to believe they can do anything they want without regard to any laws.

Now we have a state that wants to institutionalize this method?

Spanking is usually essential somewhere along the line, I sure know it taught me more in 1 minute that 10 years of nagging and complaining would have.

[Fido969]

This is part of a long-standing and concerted effort by the radical lefties in an attempt to "de-patriarch" the family.

[Redbob]

What effect will this have when all those with either the ability or inclination to have children have left the state?

[streetpreacher]

"He forgot his book. I went upstairs, I got my belt."

Geez. What a freakin' tyrant.

[jec41]

Rep. James Marzilli, Jr., of Arlington, Mass., is one of the sponsors of the bill,

Rep. James Marzilli Jr. Is the one who should be whipped in public, tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.

[armymarinemom]

Too late for Kerry. He is the sad result of being beaten with an ugly stick during childhood.

I need to remind my sons not to stop in MA with their children while they are on the way home.

[Tacis]

However, if you are really, really unhappy with some one, you can still drive them off the bridge at Chappaquidick, drown them AND THEN liesurely go for help. Generally speaking, this is only for seriously disciplinary issues, not, for example, a messy room or undone homework, but something serious, like an intentional pregnancy.

[Ron in Acreage]

I bet they won't outlaw spanking your monkey!

[JasonC]

Such hypocrites. If they remotely believed sweet reason is always the answer, why would they want to pass a law? Just convince everyone to do it your way by talking to them. Instead they want cops to beat people with sticks and snap handcuffs on them and manhandle them into locked rooms, to support their fantasy that you never have to touch somebody, you can just talk to them instead. It is incoherent raving nonsense.

[LostInBayport]

When grocery shopping up here (unfortunately, I must eat),especially in the college towns, you see the result of this type of thinking.

You'll see an adult moonbat trying to explain to her 3 or 4 year old offspring what the child 'needs to do'. The kid just keeps right on taking things off of shelves, climbing them, with the parent halfheartedly asking the kid to 'please put that back' a number of times while continuing to focus on her shopping (I don't think she realizes there are other people trying to shop). You know she's getting impatient when 'time out' is suggested or bribery is used ("If you stop that I'll buy you XYZ.").

According to my Dad, I behaved like this...ONCE. I wasn't a problem after that!

People who want to enact laws like this lose sight of the benefit of corporal punishment. If done properly, it is NOT a regular occurrence. It is a lesson that usually need only be taught one time.

[explodingspleen]

The smart kids won't just be protected, they'll be in charge.

"Daddy, if you don't get me a pony, I'm going to tell the Massachussettes gestapo that you spanked me, and you'll go to jail for a long long time!"

Really, though, we can kill the kids in the womb, but can't spank them? This people just hate traditional families with a passion, don't they?

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[so_real]

"He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24)

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..." (The U.S. Constitution)

Seems pretty cut-and-dried to me.

[Personal Responsibility]

The measure would prohibit corporal punishment including whipping, spanking and pinching

Pinching will be illegal now? Sheesh! Why not just cut to the chase and say "Causing any inconvience to the child is illegal"

[burzum]

In Japan, parents typically don't discipline children until they are in school. The rationale is that the children will eventually learn the appropriate behaviors. The children are wild for their first couple of years, but they eventually settle down. It seems to work out. Of course, Japanese society has a much stronger demand for conformity in all age groups that American society.

Regardless, I wouldn't consider paddling a child until they were at least 5 or so. What use is it to punish a child that won't remember the punishment?