Decent border protection *is* a good thing, and yes I think we can do better. But unless you're willing to shut down all international airports... the way that the 9-11 al Queda hijackers got into the country... the solutions need to be somewhat more comprehensive.
Including shoreline the U.S. has over 22,000 miles of borders. "Sealing" this is like trying to "seal" the equator. I'm not saying we shouldn't try, but I am saying that it is a singularly nontrivial problem. One way to help a great deal is to try to separate the people that are the real problem from the people that really aren't the real problem.
Seems like a place to start.
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Well, got something besides that non-answer? I take it that you only want to hire illegals to save on the money and accounting - nothing more than pure greed.
YOU, SIR, ARE THE ROOT OF THE FRICKING PROBLEM, AND DESERVE DEPORTATION ALONG WITH YOUR ILLEGAL EMPLOYEES WILE YOUR BUSINESS IS PUT UP FOR SALE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER.
The 9/11 hijackers had 64 drivers license between them. Are you for allowing illegals to have drivers licenses?
The one major flaw in your reasoning is that all illegals are a problem. They simply don't deserve to be here.
"One way to help a great deal is to try to separate the people that are the real problem from the people that really aren't the real problem."
Ramius, there are two problems not one. The first one we agree on and that is security.
The 2nd one is economic. In a prior post you said you were not worried about the people who come here to work in the fields, hotels and restaurants.
That's glossing over it. The problem in Wa. state may not be as bad as it is in the south. Here the illegals are taxing our municipal resources. Welfare, food stamps, etc. are freely given to these folks. There is an overwhelming number of them. Tax dollars are being used to educate their kids. They use the hospital emergency rooms as primary care facilities.
Wages in certain industries are being driven down because these illegal workers will take less pay. A $13.50/hr. carpenter job 12 years ago goes for $8.00 now. It's not just fields, restaurants and hotels. It's anywhere there are employers willing to hire under the table. And, I'm willing to bet that people years ago who would have never considered hiring under the table do so now because it is so prevalent here...or hire and not check the SS# given.
IMO, The entire southern border needs to be shut down and only allow those with adequate travel documents to cross back and forth. From that point forward I can agree to looking at increasing legal immigration or guest worker.
As for those who are already here, I think there needs to be a massive crack down with substatial fines and prison for employers who hire illegals. If an illegal is arrested they should be deported, no questions asked.