Disinformation: Operation Serbia

Shofar.de ^ | June 07, 2005 | Raimund Meyer

[Lion in Winter]

I wonder WHY clinton loved the muslims so much as to kill Christians for them??? I have ALWAYS wondered about that.... especially in light of his KNOWN affection for that Jewish gal, Monica.

Did he perhaps have a muslim chick/guy as well??? Were they better at IT??? LOL!!

[Hoplite]

One thing I've always wondered was how many Mig-29's survived the war.

Best I can tell is they've got 5 left.

You got anything on that?

[RussianBoor]

Well, quite honestly, I used to be hugely misled about the views of the American public myself because I used to judge it from the MSM coverage. I am glad I was wrong and I can appreciate the extent of the propaganda from what I see on the FR. As for antipathy towards Communism, you have my full support. I think that Milosevic is very much responsible for Serbia's misfortunes, and he did what he did in a large part because he is a Communist and moved through the ranks under Communists. But his opponents were no better.

[RegulatorCountry]

"especially in light of his KNOWN affection for that Jewish gal, Monica."

I wouldn't exactly call it affection. It all sounded fairly degrading, but she was so star-struck, she didn't care.

[RegulatorCountry]

"But his opponents were no better."

Agreed.

[paudio]

ping

[Lion in Winter]

Degrading? Why... he never even SEX with woman, Miss Lewinsky.

What? You don't believe the muslim's of Bosnia's BELOVED hero, bill clinton????

Well, GOLLLLYYYYYYYYYY,

[tahotdog]

One way to look at this is to look for motivations for 9-11. If there is any one nation on Earth which might have a motive (like having been bombed into the stone age for 80 days and nights including Easter Sunday for the benefit of slammite narco-terrorists and white trash and to take that Juanita Broaddrick story off the front pages of American newspapers) for something like 9-11, it would have to be Serbia.

Nonetheless, we do not read about Serbs doing suicide bombings or ultra-terrorist acts; those things are the exclusive province of the slammite.

The reason is simple enough; it's simply not in the nature of Serbs to do that sort of thing. Nobody does anything like 9-11 for any sort of a cause; people do things like 9-11 because they're f***ed-up people.

Likewise with the accusations which we're read against the Serbs. Consider the source. Lying about things like that is part of the slammite religion (I-slam). They even have a special name for it. They view such propaganda as a legitimate means of overcoming non-believers and attempting to subjugate the entire world to I-slam.

The basic bottom line, however, is Trnopolja. The basic question you have to ask yourself is, after that one, which part of this bullshit are we supposed to go on believing?

[ninenot]

Today the Roman Catholic Bishop from Croatia complained that the RC's are subject to extreme discrimination by the NATO "peacekeepers"--with Serbs and Muslims emerging as the favored children.

[sefarkas]

I can understand a lack of anti-communists amongst the Clinton administration, but I can't understand why the so-called conservatives and others on FR give a pass to the communists who were running Serbia at the time NATO intervened. The only good communist is a dead communist. Period.

[Tommyjo]

Correct 5 survived the conflict.

Fulcrum A's:

18101 survived conflict - in storage

18102 survived conflcit - in storage

18103 stripped of spares and used as decoy - destroyed

18104 Major Illic's aircraft combat damaged A2A on 24 March 1999. Stripped and later pushed out as a decoy airframe. Destroyed 11th May by cluster munition. 18105 survived conflcit - in storage

18106 shot down by Major Tankink (Royal Netherlands Air Force) Yugolsla pilot Milutinovic ejected successfully.

18107 stripped of spares and used as decoy - destroyed

18108 survived conflict - in storage

18109 shot down by Lt Col Geczy - Lt Col Pavlovic killed

18110 was lost on the 26th March 1999 due to pilot error (stalled on approach to landing) admitted by Major Slobodan Tesanovic, 127th Fighter Squadron.

18111 shot down by Captain Showers - Major Nikolic ejected successfully

18112 shot down by Lt. Col. Rodriquez - Major Arizanov ejected successfully

18113 shot down by Capt. Hwang - Capt. Radosavljevic killed

18114 shot down by Capt Hwang - Major Peric ejected successfully.

Fulcrum B's:

18301 - survived conflict - in storage

18302 - damaged during NATO bombing raid and later pushed out as decoy - destroyed.

Yugoslavia produced a number of MiG-29 decoys in the run-up to the conflict. The MiG-29 decoys induced a false BDA reading and enabled 5 MiG-29s airframes to survive the conflict intact:

Conflict survivors:

Fulcrum A serials, 18101, 18102, 18105, and 18108. Fulcrum B serial 18301.

After the conflict the Serbs returned to both the Dayton Accord and Vienna Document. They admitted to losing 50 declared combat aircraft. The MiG-21 suffered the most by type with approx 26 destroyed.

[familyop]

Pinging...

The gateway to Russia and old region of death speaks again.

[familyop]

"...but I can't understand why the so-called conservatives and others on FR give a pass to the communists who were running Serbia at the time NATO intervened. The only good communist is a dead communist. Period."

Yep.

[joan]

"Today the Roman Catholic Bishop from Croatia complained that the RC's are subject to extreme discrimination by the NATO "peacekeepers"--with Serbs and Muslims emerging as the favored children."

That's balogney. NATO has broken into the homes of Serb priests and their families and beaten the priests into comas - which I believe they are still in for over a year. After tearing apart their residences and beating the priests they dropped them off as "Joe Doe's" in front of a Muslim hospital in Tuzla. The Muslims had no idea who they were - thought they were car accident victims.

The Croat Catholic clergy were the leadership of the genocide on Serbs during WWII. They and their Croats are a whiney people who are given the kid glove treatment compared to Serbs. How many Croats have NATO "peacekeepers" shot and killed or beaten severely? I think it is ZERO. Serbs on the other hand have been shot, wounded, and/or beaten by the score at least.

[familyop]

Yugoslavia (Serbia) was in fact essentially communist and non-free (under remaining Tito-ism and regional culture) until the mid-1990s, then the collapse in the region made way for the civil war there.

But Yugoslavia was a thorn in the side of the Communist dictators in Russia during the last few years that Communism had strength left (which sentiment is growing in parts of northeast Europe and northern Asia again, unfortunately). It did serve that good purpose.

[Hoplite]

Thanks. You're my airdale go-to guy from now on.

= )

[joan]

That Croat Priest is a liar, and isn't Satan called the Prince of lies. If Serbs are considered favored "children" of NATO, then NATO is guilty of "child" abuse. This is what "peacekeepers" did to a Serb priest and his son (breaking into their home in the middle of the night) in April 2004.

[BringBackMyHUAC]

Great article on the techniques of disinformation, but the author never reveals the beneficiaries of the war on Serbia.

[familyop]

"Great article on the techniques of disinformation, but the author never reveals the beneficiaries of the war on Serbia."

Yes, to the first part. But who were the beneficiaries? We only benefitted with recorded tactical information and lost much more in other ways as far as I know. To be more sincere than in my first reply to someone, I can't think of any good reason for our involvement there. There were no "good guys" among the leaders on both sides, although Milosevic might have later been more friendly with other fascist/communist politicians in the region.

[Diocletian]

How many Croats have NATO "peacekeepers" shot and killed or beaten severely? I think it is ZERO. Serbs on the other hand have been shot, wounded, and/or beaten by the score at least. I guess you missed 2001 and the Croat revolt in Bosnia.