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To: rwfromkansas
Well, he died for his elect; the whole world is a general statement and does not mean every single person in the entire world.

I always find it fascinating when people take a plain statement and make it have a hidden meaning to fit their personal theology.

55 posted on 06/08/2005 7:04:58 AM PDT by frgoff
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To: frgoff

Amen bump


56 posted on 06/08/2005 7:06:17 AM PDT by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.)
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To: frgoff

I am not doing eisegesis.

I suggest you look at the meaning of world in Scripture. It can mean all people across the entire world. It also can mean a general reference to the Earth and people from all nations. Even in the great commission, I assume you know that the Apostles did not travel through the entire world, just the world they knew at that time. Do a search for world's usage. There are cases in which it does not refer to literally everybody in the entire world.

Scripture doesn't contradict itself. This meaning meshes well with the verse in 1 Timothy that says God wants all to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. At first, that seems to be a universal statement. I used to think so when I used to still believe in Christ dying for everyone. But, actually the context of the verse is limited to all types of people when you see we are to pray for kings and all in authority as well as those in "lesser" status. The context of how people are used in that verse is limited to types of people, just like world is limited. In that verse, it means not only will we in this part of the world be saved, but people elsewhere as well. Christ died for people in every nation of the Earth. That is what it really is meaning. If it meant every person in the entire world, it would conflict with other verses that say Christ would be a ransom for "many," or that Christ would "save His people from their sins."


60 posted on 06/08/2005 7:13:06 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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