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To: rwfromkansas
Um, the elect have to be Christians, and since they are Christians, the Holy Spirit lives inside of them and changes them.

Again, a completely circular argument. Furthermore, it limits what God can and cannot do. What makes you think that God cannot make someone elect, make them a Christian and at the same time make them an evil sinner? God's will is always done, right?

You can't be a "bad" person (i.e. non-Christian if I think that is what you are getting at) and be elect.

Why not? Isn't it up to God to decide who is and isn't elected?

333 posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:26 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: Modernman

"Why not? Isn't it up to God to decide who is and isn't elected?"

This is why:

"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the father but through me."

This is elementary orthodox Christianity.

You don't know that Jesus is the way?


368 posted on 06/08/2005 3:00:17 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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