[SoothingDave]

Then what's the point? I'm either pre-saved by God or I'm not. Since there is nothing I can do about it, why should I care at all about God and his rules?

You got it. If you convince yourself you are saved you can be self-satisfied because nothing you do matters. It you convince yourself you are damned you can despair because nothing you do matters.

Smugness or despair. What a system.

SD

[Modernman]

You got it. If you convince yourself you are saved you can be self-satisfied because nothing you do matters. It you convince yourself you are damned you can despair because nothing you do matters.

Either way, I can go out whoring, drinking, raping and killing to my heart's content in the knowledge that no matter what I do, it will not impact my salvation.

What a great system!