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To: CobaltBlue
I was talking about survival strategies evolved over billions of years by billions of semi-human and human animals, each seeking their own reproductive niche.

No, you weren't. You talked about human women and bonobos. You never mentioned "semi-human animals" (whatever they are). As for human "reproductive niches," there is no evidence anywhere of any wide-spread successful human female reproductive strategy which entails female promiscuity. None.

There IS a bunch of feminist bullshit that said that women are naturally as promiscuous as men, but that mean old misogyny and male hierarchical dominance forced them to be unnaturally hesitant about expressing their "true sexuality." Why is this bullshit? Because prior to modern technology and the welfare state, the societal structure which is natural for humans had no way to make a "promiscuous female" reproductive strategy successful given the demands of human child-rearing, for all the reasons I've previously discussed.

Moreover, even though this strategy has been modified to meet differing circumstances (for example in permitting the growth of polygamous cultures), as a general matter, the strategy followed by most human woman has been to secure as good a mate as you can to aid in raising your offspring, and to remain faithful except in very limited circumstances. It thrives because it is successful, given human biology and social structures.

The fact that you think that there is ONE strategy that works for every female indicates that you are ignorant, and the fact that you're nasty about it indicates that you're irredeemably ignorant.

That a natural, successful, female reproductive strategy for humans exists is a fact, whether you want to believe it or not. Further, I never said that every female follows this pattern. Obviously they do not, and no reasonable person could have read that into what I wrote.

The fact that I am "nasty," as you put it, does not show ignorance, but shows that I am impatient with those who put political ideology ahead of fact and logic.

138 posted on 06/09/2005 9:26:42 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: WildHorseCrash
there is no evidence anywhere of any wide-spread successful human female reproductive strategy which entails female promiscuity

Hoo boy. You really are irredeemably ignorant. I could suggest you do a little research (google female promiscuity evolution) before you embarrass yourself like this in public anymore, but I fear it's hopeless.

You'll just start ranting about feminists and loose womyn and other evil females in your mental parade of horribles. ;^D

139 posted on 06/09/2005 9:41:39 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: WildHorseCrash

I gotta run but will give this a try just for laughs -- now, think a minute.

Female monogamy is in the best interests of males. Men have no way of knowing who is the actual father of a woman's child, at least not until DNA testing. Rather than waste their resources on another male's child, males have developed a number of strategies, all of which are designed to ensure that the female doesn't fool him into raising another man's child.

Now, be logical. Why would it be in a female's best interest to adopt the male's strategy? What do females have to gain by limiting sexual congress to only one male?

Reassuring the male ego is the only possible answer, and she can do that about as well by fooling him.

That's why so-called monogamous animals, whether they be humans or geese, have a 10% to 50% rate of having offspring by other than their so-called monogamous mate.

You can blame feminists for this, if it makes you feel better, but facts are facts.

If you're worried, DNA testing is pretty inexpensive these days. ;^)


140 posted on 06/09/2005 9:50:22 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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