[tnlibertarian]

What first needs to be fixed is the part where we don't have to pay for other people's stupid decisions, instead of what you propose which is to allow more people to make more stupid decisions that the taxpayer has to pay for.

I agree that your way would be better, but do you really see that happening? Instead, I see more and more governmental control over every aspect of our life, from drugs, to seatbelt laws, to smoking, to fast food, using this same excuse. If I believe in freedom, then I must believe in a person's right to make dumb decisions, even if those decisions affect me. And I mean affect me, not because of the actions themselves, but due to the whole collective resposnibility social structure. I can't fight to change the socialist aspect of government programs while using those same programs to control someone.

I really think we fairly much agree on this, and we are really differing on semantics.

[Republic of Reagan]

I agree that your way would be better, but do you really see that happening? Instead, I see more and more governmental control over every aspect of our life, from drugs, to seatbelt laws, to smoking, to fast food, using this same excuse. If I believe in freedom, then I must believe in a person's right to make dumb decisions, even if those decisions affect me. And I mean affect me, not because of the actions themselves, but due to the whole collective resposnibility social structure. I can't fight to change the socialist aspect of government programs while using those same programs to control someone. I really think we fairly much agree on this, and we are really differing on semantics.

I would agree that if you and I were to sit down and write out our ideal government from scratch that we would probably be on the same page. But you find it more important to first worry about the "drug" aspect, the biggest downfall of the Libertarian Party (and other fringe parties) and I prefer to worry about the socialist problem.